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  • #31
    Is it safe to assume that the color science is firmware?

    Is raw enabled yet?

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    • #32
      I've shot on every previous blackmagic camera to date and you can see the DR difference in this, and its pretty significant. I'm sold on it, I'm just waiting for my turret to arrive at this point. Thanks for the footage look forward to seeing what the other beta testers post up.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Note Suwanchote View Post
        what strength did you use on that 4.6k?
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        • #34
          Originally posted by CaptainHook View Post
          1/4
          Thanks. Haven't tried a HBM so might go for that or 1/8 to test out.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Note Suwanchote View Post
            Thanks. Haven't tried a HBM so might go for that or 1/8 to test out.
            I have the 1/8th and 1/4. I normally use the 1/8 on my wide glass and the quarter on telephoto. The 1/8 doesnt bloom the highlights as much but it adds a nice roll off.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Note Suwanchote View Post
              Thanks. Haven't tried a HBM so might go for that or 1/8 to test out.
              The 1/8 is always on my lens (literally). Gonna get a 1/4 soon.
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              • #37
                One thing to remember here, is Youtube is doing a major disservice to the footage. Compression is no joke. I understand that you might feel like it's similar to the BMCC / 2.5K sensor, but in reality the color and image is VERY dense. There's a robustness to it that simply for all intents and purposes does not exist on the 2.5K camera. It's a very meaty image.

                I'll try to render out a smaller version of the video for download, I'm not sure if we can do that, have to ask Hook. You may hang on to dynamic range as your reason to get the camera, but seriously, the color and depth of the image is improved beyond even the DR imo.
                Test footage Vimeo page: https://vimeo.com/romanalaivi

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by jambredz View Post
                  The 1/8 is always on my lens (literally). Gonna get a 1/4 soon.
                  Originally posted by Abstrak View Post
                  I have the 1/8th and 1/4. I normally use the 1/8 on my wide glass and the quarter on telephoto. The 1/8 doesnt bloom the highlights as much but it adds a nice roll off.
                  Thanks you guys.
                  interesting. I have to try one (probably 1/8 since I'm not a fan of blooming highlights).
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Roman View Post
                    You may hang on to dynamic range as your reason to get the camera, but seriously, the color and depth of the image is improved beyond even the DR imo.

                    THIS!


                    Playing with the SAT vs SAT and SAT vs LUM really shows how rich and deep the colour data is - even from 10bit ProRes HQ!


                    A big part of early testing with any camera is getting a feel for how best to use it - with the Cinema Cam, exposing for 400 gave you a clean image with good range - with the 4k Cam, protecting your highlights a bit helped with the range of that camera - with this one - I am pretty much decided that the key is to Expose for 800 (using false colour on the EVF) and even IF you somehow get clipping - I guarantee you will be fine with how it looks at that end. I wonder if this is the saturation point of increasing DR?

                    I havent done a lot of testing in low light yet - but I will say that my initial impression is that its probably up to a stop cleaner than the cinema cam (so 400 on the cinema cam is as clean as 800 on the 4.6k - 800 on the cinema is as clean as 1600 on the 4.6k). Does this mean you can push it digitally in post to higher values? sure you can - but I think the limits of digital gain will kick in on any camera, even if its cleaner. If you liked the natural grain style of the cinema camera, this one is the same. Its not nasty noise - its quite pleasant.


                    This was shot at 1600 and had a very very simple grade applied. It was not pushed. Remember also that its entirely lit by fire - which some of you may know gives a very unforgiving colour temperature for noise. The room was very very dark.

                    Tom Majerski
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                    • #40
                      A single cheap Fluro Source (hardly a good light source) - ProRes HQ - 2 nodes.


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                      • #41
                        I see fixed pattern noise in the cloud shot at the end. Is that fixable? Is there some "black shading" or calibration function, like Red has?
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                        • #42
                          I'm currently on my iPhone and having a bit of trouble here..
                          Can someone pixel peep and find some jello? I swear he said GS wasn't enabled but I want to call BS :P

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Joe Giambrone View Post
                            I see fixed pattern noise in the cloud shot at the end. Is that fixable? Is there some "black shading" or calibration function, like Red has?
                            I think that "FPN" is just compression noise from YouTube

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                            • #44
                              Echoing pretty much what Roman and Tom have said. The DR is actually a shock. It feels like nothing I've ever played with in post before, despite knowing that Alexa has similar Dynamic Range. The color's wonderful, ProREs has been a fantastic, haven't really shot RAW at all actually!

                              Don't have too much to show right now but here are two clips from my short and one from Venice:

                              https://vimeo.com/146710104


                              https://vimeo.com/144708887



                              Hoping to get out on break this week to do some more shooting, or this weekend.

                              Wouldn't peep too hard, though, still nailing down firmware etc.

                              Oh: all in camera audio, sent from a mixer. Ended up syncing sound only as a precaution but using the camera's sound for everything it looks like. Great improvements.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Joe Giambrone View Post
                                I see fixed pattern noise in the cloud shot at the end. Is that fixable? Is there some "black shading" or calibration function, like Red has?

                                Care to share a screenshot?

                                I cannot see any FPN in there - if there was, im sure the compression would kill it anyway.
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