Looks almost DSLRish to me, I honestly would just wait, hopefully the release of these BMD and Digital Bolex cams push companies to produce the cameras we want. Not sure why slow motion is that big of a deal, if I need slow motion, I'll buy a GH3 that does it at 1080p
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01-05-2014 03:05 PM
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01-05-2014 03:45 PM
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Do you see where I'm going with the above? Because, I could go on for paragraphs about the unknowns with "Digital Bolex." On the other hand are the knowns -- Panasonic and Sony are pains, but we know they'll be around in a year; Canon is slightly better, very slightly; and, Blackmagic replaced a defective camera for me in about 48 hours -- and others have reported a similar experience.
So -- if the OP is making a relatively sizeable investment -- "Digital Bolex" at this point can be classified as nothing other than an extreme gamble. There is no track record for this product nor this new division of this ghost of a company. Accordingly, my recommendation to the OP is to let people with disposable incomes test this product and company for at least a year before taking any critical gambles on your part.
Bottom line -- I'd rather have three pocket cameras than one unknown "Digital Bolex." We're currently in a stage in which this Pocket camera is getting much less credit than it deserves. The service end of Blackmagic has proven acceptable. And, based on public information, we are under the impression that the finances of the company indicate a reasonable degree of assumed continuity.
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01-05-2014 04:04 PM
And, my "Whatever floats your boat" comment is just another way of saying, "If you like it, that's OK with me", or, "It's all good."
01-05-2014 05:13 PM
Guys chill out. I also was confused as to what post was from another user as Peter said. I am viewing from my phone and the link does not show up. Then i remembered and pressed the quote tab and saw the link. Maybe thats what happened in Peter's case.
Maybe im ignorant but since these cams all put out a log type image im sure we can take it in almost any direction with enough skill. So pick what works best for you. I think what matters more now is DR, lenes, resolving power.Darren Scott
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01-05-2014 05:21 PM
Phillip Bloom put 3 grand into the Digital Bolex, and razz16mm is on the D16 team, so take their comments with a grain of salt.
That grade looks horrible to me, as did Bloom's grade of Grant's 4K footage. Some of the D16 footage looks nice, but not as good as the BMD cams.
$3299 or $3599 for the D16 versus $999 or $1999 for the BMD cams? The 4K cam isn't really comparable, a different beast.
Nicer color science on BMD cams...although D16 is pretty close.
GS or higher DR? I'm skeptical the D16 is only one stop below the BMD cams...looks more like 1.5-2 to me. I'd prefer DR over RS.
720P@higher frame rates...useful for some, sure. But many cams shoot 1080P HFS now.
XLRs....will no doubt appeal. Have there been any audio tests yet?
4 hour battery time...very nice.
HDMI as well as SDI, handy.
That handle will not be good for steady shots. Gimmicky. Can be removed and should be removed.
2.5K uncompressed (BMCC) vs 2K uncompressed (D16).
I prefer removable SSDs to internal.
No shipping outside the USA?
A small company making them is nice in some ways, but in terms of support this is likely a disadvantage. What if they fold before the next update comes out?
Before the price reduction on the BMCC, it was fairly close. But with the new pricing, the BMD cams are better cams at a better price.
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01-05-2014 06:01 PM
great thread guys
01-05-2014 06:16 PM
I spent a bit over $2K on my BMPCC, lens and extras but I honestly just don't go out and shoot much, so that's my biggest limitation, not the camera.