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    BBC Approved Cameras 2012
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    Here's a list of BBC approved cameras for 2012. Do you think the BMC will make it into the HD Specialist Camera list? Nice to see that the Panny AF-101 has been approved too, albeit with an external recorder and 50Mbps minimum. If my doco proposal gets approved via their e-commissioning, I really, realy want to go the BMC Camera way :-). I heard they've approved the 7D, but the hacked GH2 has not made the list!


    List of BBC Aproved HD Cameras (as of April 2012)

    Studio Cameras

    Sony HDC1500 Sony HDC1550 Sony HDC1400 Sony HDC1450 Sony HSC300 Sony HXC100 Grass Valley LDK8000 Elite Worldcam Grass Valley LDK8000 Elite Standard Grass Valley LDK4000 Elite 1080i

    HD Handheld

    Canon XF305 Canon XF300 Sony PMW-EX1R with external recorder using a bitrate of 50Mbps or above Sony PMW-EX3 - with external recorder using a bitrate of 50Mbps or above

    HD Shoulder Mount

    Panasonic HDX900 Panasonic HPX371 Panasonic HPX3000 Panasonic HPX3100 Panasonic HPX3700 Sony PMW320 with an external recorder using a bitrate of 50Mbps or above Sony PMW350 with an external recorder using a bitrate of 50Mbps or above Sony PMW500

    Sony HDW F900R & 900 Sony HDW 790, 750 & 730

    HD Specialist

    Panasonic HPX2700 HDC27F & H Panasonic AF101 with an external recorder using a bitrate of 50Mbps or above Sony CineAlta F35 Sony SRW 9000 Sony PMW F3 with an external recorder using a bitrate of 50Mbps or above Arri D21 Arri Alexa Panavision Genesis Thompson Viper Red

    Mini Cameras

    Iconix HD-RH1 Panasonic HCK10/HMR10 Toshiba IK-HR1S Toshiba IK-HD1

    Keeping my fingers (and toes!) crossed for the BMC Camera to make the list :-)

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    Wow, I'm a little surprised not a single JVC camera made the list. Possible due to the lack of 2/3" sensors?
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    No FS100? Really?
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    I'm sure the BMC will make it. The uncompressed raw will certainly look better than the af100 to say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluoro View Post
    No FS100? Really?
    I believe it's because it has to be recorded externally to reach the required 50mbps, but the issue is because HDMI is not a professional connection like SDI is.
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    No Hvx/HPX170? What about the Hpx250? I could understand the first two due to the fact that they are anamorphic codec, but other DVCPRO HD cams made it! HPX250 is full raster. The Canon 1/3" handheld equivalents made it. What gives?
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    It's worth remembering that this list of sanctioned cameras is only what suits the BBC's requirements. Somehow the BBC have become some kind of mythical measure of camera worthiness. Weirdly, it's Americans that seem to have the most reverence for anything "beeb". It's not an objective measure for everyone.

    They famously denounced 16mm as being not good enough for them. Never mind the already mentioned 16mm films that went subsequently on to CINEMA release and to win Oscars.

    Terrestrial television broadcast is very different in the UK compared to the US. They are DTV but they have a more limited amount of bandwidth. Because each channels data rate is more limited than in other terrirories like the US they are trying to squeeze more channels into less bandwidth.

    As such, they're obsessed with compression-induced transmission artefacts, which is also why they generally won't accept anything below 50mbps. For 16mm the relative grain size causes even more problems problems.

    So really it wasn't that 16mm wasn't good enough anymore, it was that 16mm relative grain size caused too many issues with their highly restrictive bandwidth limited transmission system. Of course the rest of the pixel peeping world took it as the BBC declaring that 16mm was dead. Really they SHOULD have said their transmission system couldn't deal with 16mm, but you get the idea.

    Because the camera isn't compressed, or even when it is, only mildly compared to other cameras, I'd expect the camera to qualify when it comes around to them testing it, for what that's worth. Though they may not like the lack of faster than 30 FPS.

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    Are these the newly approved cameras? can anyone point me to an all inclusive list or general direction?
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