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  1. #1 We may be getting CDNG back 
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    I'm looking for the like button.

    I still have a BMPC with CDNG and obviously global shutter.

    For some of the work I do it's just better for me.

    I prefer the option to still shoot in it as well as BRAW on newer cameras.
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    Looks like Apple is jumping into the good fight, and suing Red over their Raw patent. If Apple wins this it’ll be a win for the entire industry.

    https://www.eoshd.com/2019/08/apple-...patent-claims/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw View Post
    Looks like Apple is jumping into the good fight, and suing Red over their Raw patent. If Apple wins this it’ll be a win for the entire industry.

    https://www.eoshd.com/2019/08/apple-...patent-claims/

    I was trying to post to the part of the BMD thread where someone posted that... sorry to make y'all read through all the Jinn Tech comments first. :P

    (Speculation on my part) I wonder if Red went after Apple for Prores Raw, and Apple came out with all guns blazing?
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    This does not mean you will get CDNG back, BMD is moving forward with its BRaw, which BMD believes is better anyway.
    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Cook View Post
    (Speculation on my part) I wonder if Red went after Apple for Prores Raw, and Apple came out with all guns blazing?
    Apparently Atomos pays Red a licence fee to use ProRes RAW, which might be the reason ProRes RAW hasn't been more widely adopted (paying Apple just to have Red strong arm you), and it might be the reason for Apple's lawsuit.
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    It was only a couple of years ago Apple collaborated with RED selling their Raven camera kits but its now no longer available. How relationship has turned sour in such short space of time. RED must be the most hated company. I think they are about to sink. BMD should also sue RED.

    https://www.cinema5d.com/red-raven-c...ugh-apple-com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Smith View Post
    This does not mean you will get CDNG back, BMD is moving forward with its BRaw, which BMD believes is better anyway.
    Cheers

    That was when they were warned it was illegal. There is advanatage and disadvantage in both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Smith View Post
    is better
    Every time there is a Windows update or an update to my phone I say welcome to better.

    Not!

    Now it's Blackmagic's turn.
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    - Apple makes ProRes RAW
    - Apple probably offer ProRes RAW to other companies to implement it to their cameras.
    - Apple waits for deals and profits...
    - Apple waits for deals and profits...
    - Apple waits for deals and profits...
    - One year later (or so) Apple probably get response from all those companies that RED keeps a patent and if they will use ProRes RAW in their cameras, RED will sue them all as they sue earlier many other companies.
    - Apple also may want to use compressed raw onto the next iPhones
    - Atomos pays to RED for license to use ProRes RAW (shame)
    - Blackmagic stop support compressed DNG in their cameras and makes BRAW to avoid sue with RED and stay outside this crazy mess.
    - Jinni Tech investigates that REDs patent may be not valid, REDmags appears 30x overpriced and mostly done with consumer level parts and use common SATA interface. Also RED's claims about custom firmware and "made in the USA" statements appears false.
    - Apple starts sue RED probably because Apple wants to deliver ProRes RAW without any limits.

    to be continued...
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