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    Quote Originally Posted by nickjbedford View Post
    If you light well and everything, it is a good camera in a lot of ways (noise performance!). But like I've said before, even being tack sharp on my focus, the 1080p file was barely showing more than 720p which really disappoints me. It's just... soft. It doesn't feel sharp. Also, I'm used to having access to the entire range of the camera through its raw files. When most profiles still blow highlights and crush shadows, I can't do as much as I might with a raw or log ProRes file.

    I'm about two weeks away from releasing my first music video (well, first cinematography project ever). I shot the performance on my 5D III and 60D and the narrative earlier on in 720p slow motion on the 60D. I'm finishing it in 720p because it just doesn't have any more detail than that.
    Post sharpen. Maybe you're not doing it right but my mk3 footage after a bit of sharpening and the right glass looks well above 720p. Now with magic lantern you have all the tools to get your exposures more dialed in. Use an external monitor. Get the look close in camera and the images are very pleasing after a decent grade. With 422 uncompressed out, all the better.
    Of course RAW will always win in image quality. But for speed and turnaround the Mk3 is quite a capable camera.
    I say that within 2 years, we will see an HDslr hitting raw video.
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    I'm doing it all in camera at ISO 100 and I know how to expose and light, and I'm using a reduced contrast, saturation and sharpness profile to give me slightly more to work with. Post sharpening is not going to give you back the detail that isn't there. It can make it appear sharper, but when I've shot, I get the same soft image that everyone else complains about on the internet.

    When I zoom in 10x on the Live View monitor, it is pixel sharp.
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    I actually tested to record video out of the 5D3 to my Hyperdeck a month ago or so and it's cleaner no doubt. Not by much but cleaner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickjbedford View Post
    I'm doing it all in camera at ISO 100.
    Worth reading the whole thing, but as always do your own tests:

    http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/I..._movie_mode.3F
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    Gopro3 vs 5d mark III sharpened. It's amazing how much the 5d mark III sharpens compared to previous cams. It's not quite 1080p but it's over 720p.

    http://talvi.com/asiakas_ftp/temp_mi..._sharpened.jpg

    Here is a music video I shot on both the Sony FS700 and the 5d mark III. The 5d had less dynamic range and less sharp. But it still looks awesome. Try to spot the shots:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQIZySJVwbc

    If you guys wanna see it in higher quality (to see what the FS700 and 5d mark III can do a bit more closer), here is a 1080p version:

    http://hmcindie.pp.fi/jessica_mv_2012_broken/

    For another kind off challenge, I shot this one with the Nikon D800, 5d mark III, Canon 7d and Sony nex-5n. Try to spot them out

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FQUM...layer_embedded
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    Quote Originally Posted by hmcindie View Post
    Gopro3 vs 5d mark III sharpened. It's amazing how much the 5d mark III sharpens compared to previous cams. It's not quite 1080p but it's over 720p.

    http://talvi.com/asiakas_ftp/temp_mi..._sharpened.jpg

    Here is a music video I shot on both the Sony FS700 and the 5d mark III. The 5d had less dynamic range and less sharp. But it still looks awesome. Try to spot the shots:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQIZySJVwbc

    If you guys wanna see it in higher quality (to see what the FS700 and 5d mark III can do a bit more closer), here is a 1080p version:

    http://hmcindie.pp.fi/jessica_mv_2012_broken/

    For another kind off challenge, I shot this one with the Nikon D800, 5d mark III, Canon 7d and Sony nex-5n. Try to spot them out

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FQUM...layer_embedded
    Geez, I was gunna say how damn good the Go Pro 3 looks...sure there are flaws but wow !!

    Was it in the case or naked ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by refocusedmedia View Post
    It's still a line-skipped, crappy 1920x1080 crop of an image...
    I thought Canon went with pixel binning in the Mk III.
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    The Copelandia video uses in camera sharpening on the Canon 5D Mark III and nikkor lenses ... very sharp.

    http://vimeo.com/40117480
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    The 5D3 outputs about the same resolution as you'd get from a Panasonic AF100 and there's no line skipping.
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    Well, if you cut in Fcpx may I suggest this plug in : http://irudis.com/Products/Tonalizer...SystemReq.aspx
    The sharpening function in this plug in is quite nice, much better than unsharp mask plus has many more useful functions like highlight recovery. I agree with Osslund, the Mk3 is about Af100 level of sharpness. I go with a feel approach and set the camera on level 1 in cam sharpen most the time. Use tonalizer to balance and sharpen the rest of the way. Throw some good glass on the Mk3 and you can get some amazing results (like my Leica R lenses).

    So @ Nick. I think you're wrong or just not sharpening correctly. Most of us know how to light and expose (I have a truck full of lights, like 50 of them). THe thing to remember is that shooting h.264 is like photoshopping a 2 megapixel 8 bit jpeg and on the mk3 with a heavy OPLF. Pack that in with the FF sensor and it's narrow DOF. I think the Mk3 is a great camera. THey addressed all the issues with the Mk2 but managed to keep the same feel of the 2 cameras so that you can mix them. ML gives the camera a boost in IQ and the 422 out should provide more boost. I shoot images at 12800 that look stunning. The ability to stop down a bit, hold focus and provide a sharper iris is huge with this camera. All that on top of one of the best Dslr's that takes incredible stills.
    My Scarlet lands this week, but the Mk3 will still get used quite often due to it's lowlight ability and FF look and stealth factor.
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