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  • Varicam LT Clips

    A NFS member, Ben Meredith is sharing clips from the Varicam LT if anyone is interested.

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kuob6f0x4...pOeEKTKSa?dl=0



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    Is there anything I should check off as default in Resolve when playing with "AVC Intra 4k" files?
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    • #3
      I'm not sure if he overexposed this clip to much or if it's handling of that hotspot is not to smooth? It does look pretty good though!
      Untitled_1.5.2.jpg

      I had to apply Neat Video to the second shot. It had a good amount of noise. But it cleaned up well.
      Untitled_1.4.1.jpg
      Last edited by Timothy Cook; 07-04-2016, 06:34 PM.
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      • #4
        The camera has different profiles. Did Ben say he shot all of this in V-Log?

        Newsshooter's Matthew Allard says this about noise:

        "The dual native ISO is a interesting concept from Panasonic. Although Panasonic claim the native 5000 ISO allows for clean shooting in very low light situations, I found it still produced noise even when I had the NR turned on. In my opinion it didn’t really look any cleaner than other good low light cameras at the same ISO settings. The noise is however quite organic and it does clean up very well with noise reduction software. This is definitely where it has an advantage over many other cameras. I found the LT performed well and produced good results at a variety of ISO settings. While the 5000 base ISO setting works well, users shouldn’t expect that it is some sort of magic that will make all your pictures noise free."

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        • #5
          I'm not sure about the log file, cause I'm not sure about the Varicam itself. I do see that the files in Resolve are displaying, AVC Intra 4K.
          Yes, Neat Video cleaned the image up really well on the second shot.
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          • #6
            Maybe it's site compressions but that second shot is just artifacts and mush. Must take a closer look.

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            • #7
              I want to love the camera and have been reading everything about it and downloading people's clips, and I'm just not feeling it. Not for $17K.

              Even though I don't like the 4.6K either, this experience is certainly putting things in perspective for me again with what BM is doing.

              Though I still need to use one thoroughly before totally writing it off.

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              • #8
                Not quite sure what it is about the Varicam... but even the new Sony cine cameras in general are looking more cinematic somehow. Like stills look pretty good overall, but in motion, something feels off for use in film / narrative. That said, it still has a great image and the super low light capability will help out a lot of people. Both URSAs honestly are looking better in color and just general cinematic appeal to me.
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                • #9
                  I don't own either camera, but the 4.6 files I have played with, to me, feel a lot cleaner and robust. Saying that, I'm not familiar with the AVC Intra files like I am with Prores and DNG.

                  7-10K is right on the limits of my purchasing ability for a single camera. 17K is even a consideration for me.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Roman View Post
                    Not quite sure what it is about the Varicam... but even the new Sony cine cameras in general are looking more cinematic somehow. Like stills look pretty good overall, but in motion, something feels off for use in film / narrative. That said, it still has a great image and the super low light capability will help out a lot of people. Both URSAs honestly are looking better in color and just general cinematic appeal to me.
                    Yeah, I saw that too, something is wrong with the motion rendering.
                    Regarding the lowlight hype - I don't understand why anybody wants to shoot without lights - you are robbing yourself from the best tool you have.
                    I love to shoot low light scenes, but when you are at my set, they don't look lowlight at all. I light them carefully, so they can be pulled down in post and look good, but I always feed my sensor.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Frank Glencairn View Post
                      Yeah, I saw that too, something is wrong with the motion rendering.
                      Regarding the lowlight hype - I don't understand why anybody wants to shoot without lights - you are robbing yourself from the best tool you have.
                      I love to shoot low light scenes, but when you are at my set, they don't look lowlight at all. I light them carefully, so they can be pulled down in post and look good, but I always feed my sensor.
                      I agree, lowlight has little appeal for me personally. Is everyone lighting with their iphones now? I mean, unless you want to do gimbal work solo, under moonlight in a field, I can't see it helping too much for narrative work. Documentary stuff though, that's another world altogether and could be a huge help for one man bands.

                      It really is crazy just how much value both URSAs have when you see look at the Varicam specs / features and the price they're trying to sell it at.
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                      • #12
                        $17K is still a pretty decent drop for Panasonic compared to what they are trying to sell the 35 for. Canon's recent $4,000 cut on the C300 Mark II is nice. Prices have to keep dropping...companies have to get out of that old pricing world (and they are). I think Sony's doing a good job.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Frank Glencairn View Post
                          Yeah, I saw that too, something is wrong with the motion rendering.
                          Regarding the lowlight hype - I don't understand why anybody wants to shoot without lights - you are robbing yourself from the best tool you have.
                          I love to shoot low light scenes, but when you are at my set, they don't look lowlight at all. I light them carefully, so they can be pulled down in post and look good, but I always feed my sensor.
                          Not everybody shoots narrative work where they have the luxury to do this. Documentary work for example would be a good example where one would need a good low light camera.
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                          • #14
                            I guess since we are already talking about it, here is a review on the VC LT from the guy who provided the files.
                            https://vimeo.com/171351175
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