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  • Kholi's Comet LUT 2019 for P4K

    For those interested Kholi has just released a new set of Comet LUTs for generation 4 colour and P4K

    https://www.thecampcomet.com

  • #2
    sweet

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    • #3
      Ooof 40bucks
      Dustin Uy-Filmmaker

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      • #4
        worth every penny, especially this latest iteration. kholi sinks an extraordinary amount of time into developing and testing these.

        i use these exclusively, especially when i have to record colored footage for broadcast clients. i've had producers consistently remark on how good image is coming out of the pocket 4k and UMP with these LUTs

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        • #5
          I use the hell out of the older version with my BMCC and Pockets.
          Like Adam E said - I agree that this lut is one that actually can be the majority of your color work on a shot. When I've used it, I have only had to do minor adjustments and the piece is done.

          The version called "Strong" makes people go "Oooooh..."
          Last edited by DPStewart; 01-19-2019, 02:15 PM.
          Cameras: Blackmagic Cinema Camera, Blackmagic Pocket Camera (x2), Panasonic GH2 (x2), Sony RX100 ii, Canon 6D, Canon T2i,
          Mics: Sennheiser, AKG, Shure, Sanken, Audio-Technica, Audix
          Lights: Every Chinese clone you can imagine

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          • #6
            Hi there
            DPStwart, what is your workflow using the Comet luts?

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            • #7
              Kholi always does excellent work!
              www.lightformfilm.com
              https://vimeo.com/suwanchote

              follow me on instagram @lightformfilm

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dcloud View Post
                Ooof 40bucks
                Kholi's LUTs are the best of the best. The LUTs pay for themselves the very first time you use it. Saving at least one hour of trying to get a grade right = $40 Plus, you can charge your clients more because the footage looks like a million bucks.

                I think in general, the LUT market has been distorted. For example you can download "LUT packs" from stock sites. Often these "LUTs" are just basic tweaks to the gamma / RGB curve, and many cases make the footage look way WORSE in my opinion.

                Would you put a $3 UV filter from a Chinese Amazon vendor in front of a $2000 prime lens, in front of a BMP4k sensor? Likewise, cheap LUTs can ruin amazing footage.
                If you have a premium quality camera, just finish the job with a premium LUT, and start charging premium prices for your services, to multiply your money back.

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                • #9
                  Is there any more information on what the BASE LUT does? Seems like we make our corrections between that and the LOOK LUT (if we use one), but just wanted to be sure what it's doing.

                  EDIT: Oh, more to the topic: these look fantastic. Kholi has always done great work, but these are my favorite of his.

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                  • #10
                    Have bought it now, let's see how well it does.

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                    • #11
                      I wish there was a tutorial on how to properly(optimally) use these.
                      If anybody is willing to share their work flow, I (and others I sm sure) would be thankful.
                      Cheers

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sam.P View Post
                        I wish there was a tutorial on how to properly(optimally) use these.
                        If anybody is willing to share their work flow, I (and others I sm sure) would be thankful.
                        Cheers
                        Same, specifically for the Pocket 4K. There is a specific set of looks for the P4K, but does the P4K need to use the BASE LUT from the other folder (it's not in the P4K folder).

                        And when the BASE LUT is used, does the grade happen between the BASE and the other LUT? I wonder if we can get more of an explanation of what BASE does.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TravisA View Post
                          Same, specifically for the Pocket 4K. There is a specific set of looks for the P4K, but does the P4K need to use the BASE LUT from the other folder (it's not in the P4K folder).

                          And when the BASE LUT is used, does the grade happen between the BASE and the other LUT? I wonder if we can get more of an explanation of what BASE does.

                          There's a base out called LOOKS BASE, meant to be used on the first node, and look applied to the node following that. This allows more flexibility to correct before and after the look.

                          For Pocket 4K users, there's a set meant to be installed and monitored with on the Pocket 4k cinema Camera. You can also experiment with recording the looks straight to ProRes footage, a feature of the Pocket 4K cinema camera that I consider to be very powerful.
                          https://www.thecampcomet.com/

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by VidShooter View Post
                            I was initially confused about why the P4K-specific LOOKS didn't have a BASE LUT, but re-reading, perhaps these LUTs are specifically for monitoring (possibly combining some aspects of the BASE LUT into it, since you can only monitor with a single LUT at a time) and not for grading. Is this the correct understanding?

                            I'm still curious about using the BASE LUT and knowing what it's doing. Just a simple "why" to better understand what is happening.

                            For using LOOKS (note: not the P4K-specific monitoring LUTs:
                            1.Apply BASE LUT to first node
                            2.Apply LOOK LUT to last node
                            3.Grade...before BASE node? Between the nodes? Kholi mentions this gives flexibility to correct before and after the look, but does this mean we're adding a third node BETWEEN the BASE and LOOK LUTs, or adding it BEFORE the BASE LUT?

                            BASE LUT ---------> [add node here] ---------> LOOK LUT

                            vs

                            [add node here] ---------> BASE LUT ---------> LOOK LUT

                            Or both? This is a little confusing:
                            There's a base out called LOOKS BASE, meant to be used on the first node, and look applied to the node following that. This allows more flexibility to correct before and after the look.
                            because I don't know if "the look" is considering the BASE node as a part of the overall look or if that's literally saying you should edit between the BASE and LOOKS LUTs.

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                            • #15
                              Does anyone have a workflow suggestion as to how these LUTS should be used? I just payed $40 for these and they just look as darkening and generic as all the others I've tried before.

                              I am remembering why I don't pay this much for LUTS. Can someone please recommend a workflow for either Davinci or Premiere ?

                              Looking to use them with Ursa mini 4.6k in this particular instance, but also have a pocket 4k.
                              Ursa 4.6k, Pocket Cinema 4k, BMCC, GoPro Hero4 Black, Mavic Air, Phantom 2, Canon T3i, Lots of glass.

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