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  • Which is the best all around affordable lens for the Pocket Camera??????

    I went ahead and got in line for the purchase of a Pocket Camera today.

    Being a total novice that knows nothing about lenses at all I found this link useful.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGFfoW8aZjE

    If any of you were forced to work with only one affordable all around lens for the Pocket Camera which lens would you get and why would you chose it?

    I am snooping around here trying to learn as much as I can as quickly as possible and would like to know what you think.


    Sincerely,

    Useg Diaz-Granados
    http://www.oversightentertainment.se

  • #2
    I bought the Panasonic 12-35 f2.8 for my Pocket camera. It's relatively fast for decent low light shooting, has a good focal range even when taking the crop factor of the Pocket camera into consideration, and (most importantly for me) it has image stabilization which helps when taking it out bare bones. If you're really sure you want to buy into the Micro Four Thirds format the Panasonic 12-35 and 35-100 are pretty much the two ideal lenses for walking around and shooting. For the price, I think they're great.

    Now, I can already hear you saying you're looking for an affordable lens. A good set of lenses will last you a lifetime, so keep that in mind when making a decision.

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    • #3
      I also purchased a Panny 12-35 and if using the Pocket handheld you will need Image Stabilisation to stop micro jitters. Its not cheap though, £650. If you just want a prime lens the Panny 14mm is a nice budget lens and can be bought for around £100 for the MKI version.

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      • #4
        It'd be nice if there were a decent m4/3 pancake lens that had OIS. Then this would truly be a "Pocket" camera. I guess the Panasonic 14-42 Vario PZ is as close as I can hope to get, but it's not super fast for low light situations.

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        • #5
          Thank you for your input PeopleCanFly and sfpuk.

          In my case I probably rent a lens like that for a particular project once I get my feet a little wetter.

          Not knowing anything about lenses I went to youtube to see some footage of the lenses you recommended and I think I can see a clear difference in between the different price points (I hope it is not a visual cerebral placebo effect playing games with my brain).

          Knowing that the Pocket Camera is a serious tool I need an all around lens at a lower price point that still will allow me to squeeze the juice out of the camera while I am learning.

          The price point of the Panasonic mentioned is what I am looking for in terms of price.

          Here is another link for you newbees like me that might be of use.

          http://philipbloom.net/2010/12/27/lensfov/

          I know this information is already floating around the web but feel the urge to organize it to keep everything in one place in order to facilitate easier access to the info.



          Sincerely,

          Useg Diaz-Granados
          Last edited by Useg Diaz-Granados; 09-30-2013, 11:33 AM.
          http://www.oversightentertainment.se

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          • #6
            Even though it’s a portrait lens the Olympus 45mm f/1.8 seems interesting to me.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j8mEMBHESY

            Can anyone tell me what the disadvantages of using a portrait lens for video work are?

            What do you think about the lens?


            Sincerely,

            Useg Diaz-Granados
            http://www.oversightentertainment.se

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            • #7
              An all-round lens at a lower price point is not an easy thing to accomplish. Glass costs money, even cheap glass is not what people like to think of as cheap. The only modern still lens I shoot with is the 11-16. All my other lenses are vintage or older manual focus lenses. I think the only inexpensive way to go is to buy vintage glass. I'm not so sure, if you are new to all of this whether it would be an appropriate move for you (it depends on how much effort you put into research). Vintage/manual lenses offer a long focus throw (which is needed for good follow focus), good build quality, usually fast, excellent quality optics. But obviously you won't get autofocus (which a filmmaker won't be using anyway) or OIS. You also want a lens that has constant aperture, doesn't breathe.

              Edit:
              Focus throw—How far the barrel turns between minimum and maximum focus (important for critical focus)
              Fast—The maximum aperture of the lens (ie f1.4)
              Constant aperture—when the amount of light is constant throughout the focal range (ie. stay at f2.8 from 28mm-80mm)
              Breathing—when there is a slight shift in the field of view/angle of view when adjusting focus.

              There are some sites online that recommend lenses for the Pocket camera, but by the sound of it, you want a one size fits all lens, that covers your full range for a low price point. It depends what you want to shoot and how much you are willing to spend, but it's not really feasible below £500 (at least).

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              • #8
                Thank you Tim for explaining the lens world in such a digestible and knowledge intensive way.

                I am assuming that buying vintage lenses is sort of like buying old pro audio gear; if you don’t know what you are doing (research has its limits which often can be offset by experience) you might get a lemon.

                You gave me a lot to think about in the same time you gave me incredible amount of valuable insight Tim.

                (Off Topic)
                I saw some footage in your twitter account where a fence guy kills two young kids (in their 20's). Is that your work Tim (if it is it was intense and well done lol)?


                I feel extremely normal after watching that (LOLOL).
                (((Daniel Wolfe's video for the shoes Time To Dance)))



                Sincerely,

                Useg Diaz-Granados
                Last edited by Useg Diaz-Granados; 09-30-2013, 12:34 PM.
                http://www.oversightentertainment.se

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                • #9
                  The most afordable new m4/3 lenses is imo the three Sigma ART primes.
                  The 19, 30 and 60mm all f2.8.
                  I have the 60mm and it is awesome, blunty loved the 30mm. But for the pocket cam I would have bought the 19mm.
                  They are sharp, nice auto focus (gearless), smooth manual focus, fast and cost less than $200.
                  Youtube
                  Videos, Tests, Tutorials, Reviews and so on : https://www.youtube.com/user/mattiasburling

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                  • #10
                    Vintage glass has its own set of minor worries but for the price you pay, for the results you get, it's worth it. I have a selection of soviet glass from Konvas LOMO to the whole Jupiter Range. You have to get adapters for them obviously but the difference between still lenses and cine lenses or old manual lenses are considerable. Some of my soviet glass will match expensive cine lenses and still have a character to them that is just not there with still lenses—plus they are built to last and like I said before have a decent focus throw so if you put a follow focus on your rig, critical focus is easier to attain.

                    A recent purchase was a soviet Industar pancake 28mm lens for £40 (m39 mount). There is a risk, you have to research if they will cover the sensor and if the flange depth is compatible, and willing to order from Eastern Europe.

                    Umm not sure what video you are referring to. Was it the Daniel Wolfe video? I don't remember tweeting that, but as I respect Daniel Wolfe a lot i wouldn't be surprised. I love the San Miguel 'Una Vida Bien Vivida' advert (which Framestore worked with him on.

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                    • #11
                      Thank you for the input Tim and Nisse-Tutta.

                      It would probably take me a while before being brave enough to embark on getting East Block glass; with that said I don’t doubt your findings Tim.

                      Some of the older Russian movies I’ve seen are cinematographic masterpieces.

                      I assume that the glass those filmmakers used plays a central part in why their pictures look so great.


                      Sincerely,

                      Useg Diaz-Granados
                      http://www.oversightentertainment.se

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                      • #12
                        I like the Sigma lenses.

                        Thank you for making me aware of them Nisse.

                        Here is the link that sold me on then (besides the price).

                        http://vimeo.com/50855881

                        I think I get the 19mm and the 60mm.


                        Sincerely,

                        Useg Diaz-Granados
                        http://www.oversightentertainment.se

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Useg Diaz-Granados View Post
                          I like the Sigma lenses.

                          Thank you for making me aware of them Nisse.

                          Here is the link that sold me on then (besides the price).

                          http://vimeo.com/50855881

                          I think I get the 19mm and the 60mm.


                          Sincerely,

                          Useg Diaz-Granados
                          Det var så lite så.
                          Youtube
                          Videos, Tests, Tutorials, Reviews and so on : https://www.youtube.com/user/mattiasburling

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                          • #14


                            Sincerely,

                            Useg Diaz-Granados
                            http://www.oversightentertainment.se

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                            • #15
                              The Sigma Art lenses are a good suggestion, but even the 19mm is not wide.

                              If you need something wider, look for a Cosmicar 12.5mm 1.4, they are cheap and they cover. You'll need to machine down the rim of the mount a bit, but that's no big effort. The same thing goes for the 10mm Tevidon by Zeiss (Jena). Please check the long thread about lenses we have here:
                              http://bmcuser.com/showthread.php?35...-Camera-Lenses

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