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  • #16
    Just to speculate in general:

    Do Amazon and eBay respect copyright and IP if they are made aware of a stolen design? If they refuse to sell such a product, it would cut the damage to minimum.

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    • #17
      No point in speculating without a statement from Veydra. I recently had a lighting seminar with the founder of Dedolight, and he acknowledged that there is nothing he can do about the Chinese clones of his designs, and even stated that they are really good. The difference is that the originals are built in Germany and the led emitters are tested for uniformity. with lights any of us that use knock offs know to expect some compromise, may need to tighten screws or change cables. Lenses are tricky if they are built on the same production line then they are in fact the same product, some would pay a premium for accurate focus marks, others won't care if it works well. Being only one focal length for now, it is likely a reverse engineered clone, and those clones will be sold under the various brands that have been doing mirrorless manual lenses, it was announced back in February and just coming to market now, so if there were legal issues they should have been resolved, not my place to say.

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      • #18
        Well whatever it is, I hope Veydras design is safe. Being a designer myself it's a matter of principle for me. I'm out.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by EYu View Post
          Meike is not the only one cloning. 7Artisans and a few more brands are coming out with similar products. It may be coming from a single manufacturing source, probably the same source that Veydra may have contracted.
          Veydra lenses are made by the co-designer, they are not outsourced to a third party. Ryan and his partner have complete control over the manufacturing.
          Cheers

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          • #20
            I'm going to photokina next month, I will see if I can do a test with the 25mm Meike.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Perry Mulder View Post
              I'm going to photokina next month, I will see if I can do a test with the 25mm Meike.
              Mainly concerned with build quality, is it smooth and dampened. Appears to have adequate focus throw. I suspect optically it will be fine for price point, I have the tiny 7artisans and it is surprisingly good.

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              • #22
                First batch seems to have sold well, only one left on Amazon, no official reviews yet though. Amazon is linking reviews of the 35 1.7. I want to see a video of footage and in operation.

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                • #23
                  Yeah, curious as well. I think we won't be disappointed.
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                  • #24
                    Anyone get one yet? Curious how it pairs with p4k, it would be a normal lens on that sensor, so I can see it being a go to lens.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by vvvvv View Post
                      I would not support this kind of cloning if it is the case. Especially now that Veydra has said that they are coming back.
                      Really? This is standard practice since 1990's, and you can't expect anything else if you do business in China. If you think you are not creating a copycat competition by moving your manufacturing to China, you are special type of stupid.

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                      • #26
                        Two things matter the most with cine lenses- rotation and breathing. If this lens is just rehoused still lens and has small throw and has a lot of breathing, might as well just buy their normal version and add focus ring. No information on focus throw and how is sharpness at the edges at T2.0?

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                        • #27
                          It is listed as a 300 degree focus throw and supposedly cover aps-c so edge sharpness should be fine on MFT. It is clearly a Veydra knock off, how closely the optics and build quality are we won't know until someone dares to buy one and review it. The little pancake lenses they make are are surprisingly good so who knows right. I'm kind of waiting to see if they dare release the full set but may cave when I'm more flush. I can see this being a go to focal length on P4k, tend to be on normal most of the time when shooting narrative.

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                          • #28
                            Veydra is effectively dead. No new product in a very long time, and the used market is all but dried up. Sad, but that is the harsh reality.

                            I think I'm going to give this puppy a test. If it sucks, Ii can always send it back. If it works well, the biggest downside is that there are no other lenses to pair it with.
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                            • #29
                              Looking forward to your review. Total speculation here, but if Veydra is dead, I wouldn't be surprised if the set shows up here one at a time. I've been tempted, but Amazon won't ship to Canada, and I haven't ordered anything from China via eBay while Canada Post is on Strike, maybe sometime after Christmas. I think you'll find this lens is on your p4k most of the time anyway as it is the normal focal length, very versatile, the if you only have one lens lens. Ive shot 2 features on original pocket and 16mm was that lens, the few times I used other lenses were for special shots that didn't really need full to focus pull, so just about any lens will do.

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                              • #30
                                I better option is going to be the new Tokina 11-20mm Cine Zoom, gives a similar quality image, if not slightly better (yes a zoom as good as a prime), and this lens is available next month. But if a Veydra 16mm is on your list, there is one on eBay for $2K!
                                Cheers

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