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  • #31
    Originally posted by alex.stefani View Post
    thank you for the stills, they are fabulous! No words/pics about bmpcc+speedbooster+ Tokina AT-X-Pro?
    Works like a charm technically, but with that lens, it's not so pocket anymore ;-)
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    • #32
      Just a heads up, hopefully nobody just bought the one on EBay from Japan. They had it labeled wrong and it's not the correct version.

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      • #33
        Word is that the first one in this series (the 2.6-2.8) is the best, but unclear how good the others are ... some reports not so encouraging. Anyone have any experience with them?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by jrd View Post
          Word is that the first one in this series (the 2.6-2.8) is the best, but unclear how good the others are ... some reports not so encouraging. Anyone have any experience with them?
          The first one is definitely the Angenieux recipe, the second (with bayonet sunshade) is also thought to be the same as the first, but with improved/upgraded coatings.
          The rest are different lens recipes & so whilst not bad, they do not produce the same results - Tokina has done some nice vintage zooms & i've seen lots of nice things shot with them (and they're cheap, but shhhhhhhhh).

          If you've got the cash, then buy the original Angenieux lenses as they do have the edge on the Tokina versions - there are 3 of them: 28-70, 35-70 & 70-210. I seem to remember that the 35-70 is the only true parfocal of the 3, but the others are so close you'll hardly notice.

          There are loads of vintage lenses out there that produce great images, like the Tokina/Angenieux zoom.
          I personally really like the Mir 24m 35mm f2 (m for M42 mount, there is a more recent 24n in Nikon mount) - really great lens & v.close focusing.
          This and the Tokina AT-X pro are the only lenses I seem to use.
          Also the Meyer-Optik lenses are really nice - but only really the 35mm, 105mm & 135mm (they all have loads of blades, so beware of the ones that don't & then there's the over priced Trioplan 100mm - renoun for soap bubble bokeh, but the others have this too, to varying degrees).
          Last edited by Bioskop.Inc; 09-12-2016, 11:32 AM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Frank Glencairn View Post
            Just a quick rough cut

            https://youtu.be/6TwOOSmBU8I
            Looks good man. I see some black lines in the footage at about 42- 45 seconds
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            • #36
              Yeah, no idea what that was.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Frank Glencairn View Post
                Yeah, no idea what that was.
                Actually i think its a result of firmware 4.0. I've seen a couple people mention this same problem.


                Edit: on the Ursa mini FB group Hook says its a known issue which will be fixed in the next update.
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                • #38
                  Frank, are you shooting this wide open to get the really low contrast look? Any diffusion/filters in front of the lens?
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                  • #39
                    No diffusion, cause I could not bring a mattebox (my Vinten sticks are in repair, and I had to use a sub par tripod - camera too heavy, no leveling), so with the variND in front - that flares pretty much, when you shoot into the sun, especially on that lenses - it has a similar effect.
                    But actually there is also a shift on that YT clip, looks much more contrasty on my monitor.

                    Originally posted by jambredz View Post


                    Edit: on the Ursa mini FB group Hook says its a known issue which will be fixed in the next update.
                    good
                    Last edited by Frank Glencairn; 09-13-2016, 01:06 AM.
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                    • #40
                      Looks very good Frank, really nice look and feel.

                      Btw, do you use Resolve's denoiser? Looks pretty clean.
                      Last edited by Unknown; 09-13-2016, 04:35 AM.

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                      • #41
                        To all the BMPCC/Speedbooster people wondering about this lens, I'll try and post some test footage soonish.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Unknown View Post

                          Btw, do you use Resolve's denoiser? Looks pretty clean.
                          No denoising at all - I always ETTR (even if some guys think that's the wrong way to treat the Ursa)
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Frank Glencairn View Post
                            No denoising at all - I always ETTR (even if some guys think that's the wrong way to treat the Ursa)
                            My Tokina arrives Thursday. Screw on hood. ��

                            Hey man, if exposing to the right is giving you consistently amazing footage (as it has), then screw it. Who are we to say? It's much better than under exposing...
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                            • #44
                              Just pulled the trigger on the Sigma. It'll be interesting to see how it compares to my older Tokina 50-135. I'm guessing the same performance wide open.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Frank Glencairn View Post
                                No denoising at all - I always ETTR (even if some guys think that's the wrong way to treat the Ursa)
                                I ETTR with the ursa all the time, but I still end up denoising my footage. This is my second unit but I still feel my ursa is noisier then other. Recently I discovered fpn in skies with 800 iso in daylight with your LUT. Will post them to bmd and see what they think.

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