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  • BMPCC and Hyperdeck

    Would you be able to hook up the hyperdeck shuttle to the Pocketcam to give yourself the ability to record to SSDS's?

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    don't see why not... only question is whether the hdmi out is clean.

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    • #3
      I believe that BM has indicated that you will be able to output Prores (not sure of DNG) over Clean HDMI (no overlay's).

      Steve.

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      • #4
        I believe that BM has indicated that you will be able to output Prores (not sure of DNG) over Clean HDMI (no overlay's).
        The output is just an image that bypasses your camera's compression and records to the external recorder. The recorder sets the recording format. I am pretty sure it will be possible to get a clean image from the Pocket Camera. It would make business sense to Black Magic.

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        • #5
          What would be the advantage of recording ProRes to SSD instead of a SD card? Limitations in the size of high speed cards available, I guess?
          Ursa 4.6k, Pocket Cinema 4k, BMCC, GoPro Hero4 Black, Mavic Air, Phantom 2, Canon T3i, Lots of glass.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by marshallbaker View Post
            What would be the advantage of recording ProRes to SSD instead of a SD card? Limitations in the size of high speed cards available, I guess?
            Well you might also be able get the Hyperdeck Shuttle 2 plus a larger SSD around the same price as some of the smaller SD cards.

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            • #7
              Exactly plus a SSD is more robust. Is it possible to record to the SSD and SD card at the same time?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Brian@202020 View Post
                Well you might also be able get the Hyperdeck Shuttle 2 plus a larger SSD around the same price as some of the smaller SD cards.
                But, it would take a pretty large pocket to fit both the Pocket Camera and a Shuttle!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jason Greene View Post
                  But, it would take a pretty large pocket to fit both the Pocket Camera and a Shuttle!
                  True, but if size doesn't matter that this is an option that some will make.

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                  • #10
                    I would personally consider this combo as well, but the concern is that I read there's no way to monitor how much time is left for recording as there's no such indication on the Hyperdeck Shuttle 2. With higher budget, an Atomos Ninja 2 would make a better option.

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                    • #11
                      My concern would be...both the hyperdeck and the ninja 2 allow for 10-bit recording...so aside from getting a larger shooting capacity you would decreasing your bit rate from 12 to 10. Which would, in theory, affect your post color grading abilities.

                      It might not matter if you're doing something as simple as shooting interviews or something that will require very little grading. But anything other than that, why take the hit?

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                      • #12
                        ProRes recorded in camera is only 10 bit, so if most of your work is ProRes it is a viable option. I used my hyperdeck shuttle 2 until RAW was implimented. I already owned a hyperdeck shuttle 2 and I didn't want to buy SD cards until the official RAW compatible SD card list was released. It worked great and I did several jobs with that set up.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Brian@202020 View Post
                          ProRes recorded in camera is only 10 bit, so if most of your work is ProRes it is a viable option. I used my hyperdeck shuttle 2 until RAW was implimented. I already owned a hyperdeck shuttle 2 and I didn't want to buy SD cards until the official RAW compatible SD card list was released. It worked great and I did several jobs with that set up.
                          My mistake...its 12 bit in RAW...my mojo is all out of whack today.

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                          • #14
                            This Hyperdeck sounds like a very good plan for me, that I'm just buying my Pocket package.

                            How reliable is it? Any lost frames stories or anything? I ask that because I heard that Ninjas were not completely reliable when used on a professional user intensive basis, and some production companies were not trusting them anymore. I have that info from a reliable source, not a rumour.

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                            • #15
                              i've had a ninja 2 since it's release. Its OK...Its definitely had little quirks...but it has performed.

                              It fucked me on one shoot...but there was a variable there, as I came on as an add'l operator and the DP wanted to use his drives. Even though they were on the approved list from atomos....something happened with everything shot on my camera.

                              I spent an entire day testing my set up after that...and had NO problems...

                              I just used my Ninja 2 shooting for a CBS holiday special and it performed fine.

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