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  • dop16mm
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    The broken thread inserts are the main reason I feel a half cage is bare minimum, structurally tying top and bottom mounting holes together and adding new ones with more integrity.

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  • Park Edwards
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    Thanks for all the replies. Appreciate the feedback.

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  • Park Edwards
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    Originally posted by shijan View Post
    Larger cameras may not need a cage at all. Smaller mirrorless cameras or BMMCC-like cameras usually have weak bodies, weak bottom thread hole, and need a cage to mount additional tools. Also some cages have special additional holes in front to fix Speedbooster. This allow to fix weak lens mount rotation when use follow focus.


    Ah, this is totally why I could see a cage.

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  • DPStewart
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    Man, cages are for those who haven't risen up and thrown off the tyranny of a shackled mind yet.. You feel me, man?

    See look at Frank, right? ..Frank must have been feeling really trapped within his mind. So he had to go all the way to Africa to free his soul, and then find it again stripped of all its western rigidity so he could rejoin with it and fly into the sun, where the bright forces of light and seedling may come together and germinate.

    And from Frank's transcendentally germinated mind come his works.

    I mean.. how'd you THINK he does it? Lava Lamps?

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  • polaroid22
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    Top handle (skateboarding, low moving angles) + better weight distribution for ronin s + attaching shotgun is easy + external monitor.

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  • M&M's
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    Is there a cage for the UMP at all? Never seen one in all the camera porn online.

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  • Bob Loblaw
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    For a larger camera with SDI connections, no I would not use a cage. For a camera like the BMPCC4K, absolutely. Locking down the HDMI & USB connections is a must. It protects your connections, and it protects your footage. The cage itself also strengthens the camera's body with an exoskeleton that transforms a fragile feeling camera into a tank.

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  • ty_lowcountry
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    I use a cage on my P4K for the main purpose of securing the metabones adapter to the cage. It just feels much more secure and there's no more wiggle/play between the SB and P4K lens mount.

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  • Frank Glencairn
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    It really depends...

    I just came back from shooting 3 weeks in Africa. High glossy 45min docu for Arte (German/French national TV).
    Besides a RED (not my decision), we had a P4k as B-cam, mostly on a gimbal, or a s A-cam for certain shots, especially in low light situations, where the Red can't go.

    I always try to keep the Pocket as pocket as possible (otherwise I could use one of my Ursas in the first place).
    Internal battery, Tentacle velcroed on top, C-Fast card, no cage or rig.

    And actually - I didn't really miss a cage during that 3 weeks of production.

    I can see the benefit though, if you need/want to rig additional stuff.

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  • S_Berger
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    For my Pocket 4k i need a cage for:

    - Secure the HDMI port
    - Mount a top handle with monitor (I dont trust that one little screw on top)
    - I also can screw on some 15mm clams so i can attach rods directly to the cage.

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  • GeranSimpson
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    I can imagine getting by without a cage on the P4K. They designed it to be somewhat ready out of the box.

    The micro without a cage? Uhhh.... Well Id love to see this rig

    Upsides are you have a ton of options on where you can mount accessories, those attachments are more secure, it protects the camera, and it lets you mount things in a more compact way than by building linearly outward from the tripod hole.

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    The smallest version of my micro rig would not be possible without a cage.
    Last edited by GeranSimpson; 05-20-2019, 08:11 AM.

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  • shijan
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    Larger cameras may not need a cage at all. Smaller mirrorless cameras or BMMCC-like cameras usually have weak bodies, weak bottom thread hole, and need a cage to mount additional tools. Also some cages have special additional holes in front to fix Speedbooster. This allow to fix weak lens mount rotation when use follow focus.


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  • NoxNoctus
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    If you don't feel you need it, you might not. I've caged every camera I've had since the Pocket. Using it in any large professional capacity, even simple run-and-gun, a cage is massively useful for mount points, top handle, stability, etc. As a second or even primary cam, I need to run TC, XLRs, monitor mount, v-mount, follow focus, wireless reference, SSD....Doing that all without a cage is just...no...lol.

    Even simple handheld work, with a form-fitting cage like the Tilta tactical, it makes the camera feel a little more substantial. And stabilizing the mount with any sort of Metabones/viltrox is an absolute must in my eyes.

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    (This was a quick shoot where I wanted to throw the pocket on the C300 rig but you get the idea

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  • Park Edwards
    started a topic General Inquiry: Why do you want/need a cage?

    General Inquiry: Why do you want/need a cage?

    I've yet to actually need it on any shoot for my Micro or P4k. Is it me? I usually just pop top and bottom rails and outfit it with accessories, but I don't think I've ever stopped and said "I wish I had a cage." For the OG Pocket, absolutely. That thing was ridiculously tiny. Generally just curious, what are your reasons for having one? I also want to say this isn't a debate war, I'm just looking to see the upsides to owning one.
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