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  • #16
    Thanks for the part list Hugo!
    I see it is normally attached with 2 screws, do you feel one screw is holding the handle and the camera tight enough so it wont drop?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Samuel H View Post
      I plan on using the ultra-low-budget version of this with my p4k: the magicrig

      Looks like balancing an egg on a stick

      The weight (or rather the lack of it) becomes a handicap, when you shoot without a tripod/gimbal.
      Unless you plan to shoot BlairWitch 4, you need a solid support. Like with all DSLR style cameras, the problem is the monitor in the back.
      You ether need a second monitor, if you want shoulder shooting, or you move the camera way in front of your rig, so you can see the monitor.
      That's asking for unstable, shaky shot with micro jitter, unless you counter it with weights on the back - at this time the "pocket" form factor is already out of the window,
      and you could have used an Ursa in the first place.

      If you absolutely want/need shoulder shooting, make yourself a lowrider-shouldercat style rig, where the balance point is above the camera, and let gravity do most of the work.

      I did this with the BMCCs and it works pretty well. IMHO the only chance to get halfway decent footage out of a DSLR style body, without a tripod or gimbal.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Frank Glencairn View Post
        Looks like balancing an egg on a stick

        The weight (or rather the lack of it) becomes a handicap, when you shoot without a tripod/gimbal.
        Unless you plan to shoot BlairWitch 4, you need a solid support. Like with all DSLR style cameras, the problem is the monitor in the back.
        You ether need a second monitor, if you want shoulder shooting, or you move the camera way in front of your rig, so you can see the monitor.
        That's asking for unstable, shaky shot with micro jitter, unless you counter it with weights on the back - at this time the "pocket" form factor is already out of the window,
        and you could have used an Ursa in the first place.

        If you absolutely want/need shoulder shooting, make yourself a lowrider-shouldercat style rig, where the balance point is above the camera, and let gravity do most of the work.

        I did this with the BMCCs and it works pretty well. IMHO the only chance to get halfway decent footage out of a DSLR style body, without a tripod or gimbal.
        It does look not professional though , I would invest in a zacuto or something similar though. As you tend not to get taken seriously with these cheap setups. And sometimes impressions on a shoot is half the work.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by polaroid22 View Post
          It does look not professional though , I would invest in a zacuto or something similar though. As you tend not to get taken seriously with these cheap setups. And sometimes impressions on a shoot is half the work.
          agreed. I pull out a rigged up micro to please the client though I prefer to shoot with just a bare micro and a monitor on top which looks like a toy

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          • #20
            I don't have clients that worry about how professional my kit looks. I've been happily shooting with an RX100 IV for the last two years, and I actually like it when I work with somebody new that has seen my previous stuff but hasn't seen me shooting and they see me bring THAT out of my bag. I tell them it's good enough and I shoot all my stuff with that and it makes me look like a superhero, not just somebody with fancy equipment.

            Then again, I know the magicrig has huge limitations, but it's not the first time I use it. I know I can shoot nice over-the-shoulder stationary shots at 100mm and they'll have some floating motion that makes it feel handheld but it's subtle and not distracting. If I walk it all falls down to pieces but I'll use a gimbal if I'm going to move my feet during the shot.

            I'd love to have a true shoulder rig that's balanced (i.e. one that stays put if I take both hands off) but that requires cables and a screen and counterweights and whatnot. As long as I have something massively lighter and smaller, I'd take that big thing out of my home once a year or less.

            (yes, I know my needs and tastes are not the general norm here)
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