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  • #76
    @flabasha It's not just the camera. All the rigging, gimbals, tripods, sliders, etc get exponentially bigger and so does storage and transportation. This camera is also more sensitive than the Ursa Mini and the sensor is just a tad narrower than S35.

    I mean that this is potentially a very powerful tool that may be more adequate than bigger cameras for independent filmmaking.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by fahnon View Post
      Being satisfied with whatever is thrown your way is not what I'd call a virtue.

      If they'd released footage that...

      -Showed skin tones (bonus for showing different shades).
      -Had a variety of lighting conditions/times of day.
      -Showed both outdoor/location and lit scenes.
      -Showed off the dual ISO.
      -Had RAW files to download along with the footage.

      ...very few people would be complaining. Hell this is the first time I've ever complained about early footage from a BMD camera.

      You didn't think the people who were clamoring to see footage would be happy with something that doesn't work for them, right?

      "Being satisfied with whatever is thrown your way is not what I'd call a virtue."
      LMAO... straight up comedy! No doubt, but I'd hope we can both agree that patience is!

      Wyatt already stated that BMD asked him specifically to shoot nature footage for the purpose of stressing the sensor. He also noted that he had very limited time with the camera. I get it, simple as that. Lets me know that I should see more footage soon.

      Like everyone else I would have loved to see footage showcasing skin tones, different locations, and a variety of lighting conditions, but I'm not twisted up, and pouting thinking I wont soon see footage that does.

      Soon BMD will release footage that

      -Shows skin tones .
      -Has a variety of lighting conditions/times of day.
      -Shows both outdoor/location and lit scenes.
      -Shows off the dual ISO.
      -and may possibly have RAW files to download along with the footage.

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      • #78
        @shijan Sensors are a lot like film stocks, each one has its character, but then you can grade the hell out of them. That said, the colors of the video look richer than the usual GH5 footage. I guess that's BM's color science in action.
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        • #79
          Years ago when the pocket was introduced Brawley shot day and nighttime footage with people.

          We don't need something super produced or produced at all. Keeping with the "nature" theme... maybe having someone walk into and out of the frame would have been sufficient.

          I appreciate the footage Wyatt. But with the excitement around the camera this first look was honestly disappointing.
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          • #80
            Originally posted by Vinyl Stax View Post
            Please please, don't bring us this camera looking like this
            The exact reason we shoot RAW is so that we're not locked into the look the camera gives us, right? So just change it in post.

            My money is on typical footage from the camera looking like Ursa Mini Pro footage but with less dynamic range. I've seen a lot of similar beach footage shot the BMPCC and BMMCC. Does it look exactly like that? No, I don't expect it to. One is color science 1.0, the other is 4.0. That being said, does it looked worlds different? No, because it's within range of a look that I can expect people getting with a grade.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Philip Lipetz
              Expected delivery date at BH Photo, October 5
              Damn! I really wanted to use this for a shoot on Oct. 6th.

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              • #82
                " The exact reason we shoot RAW is so that we're not locked into the look the camera gives us, right? So just change it in post."

                The only reason I would be shooting the Magic cameras is because of the look they have had. The same reason I choose Arri over Red, because of the look they give me.
                Raw has nothing to do with it.
                Whoever is not alarmed with this footage, well, we are on different boats. Not that there is anything wrong in being on different boats.
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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Jim Simon View Post
                  Damn! I really wanted to use this for a shoot on Oct. 6th.
                  Did you pre-order somewhere? If so, you still might have it in September.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by tyger11 View Post
                    Did you pre-order somewhere? If so, you still might have it in September.
                    For my part, I reached out to B&H - they said inventory is expected to arrive on Oct 5 :-/, as far as the person I spoke with knew...

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                    • #85
                      Mark, thanks for the test. Great start. Agree that the forest is a good test as it requires a fair amount of latitude.

                      Have you had a chance to look at the footage on your own yet? I know you shoot with an UrsaMiniPro. What do you think compared to that? For the footage not the ease of use. Maybe that separately.

                      Also what did you use for media? Assuming CFast cards but maybe I shouldn't be assuming anything.

                      Thanks for beginning the opening salvo for every point of view and then some that will be directed at this footage and the camera that made it.

                      Really like the work you and your team do by the way. Nice stuff.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by fahnon View Post
                        Being satisfied with whatever is thrown your way is not what I'd call a virtue.

                        If they'd released footage that...

                        -Showed skin tones (bonus for showing different shades).
                        -Had a variety of lighting conditions/times of day.
                        -Showed both outdoor/location and lit scenes.
                        -Showed off the dual ISO.
                        -Had RAW files to download along with the footage.

                        ...very few people would be complaining. Hell this is the first time I've ever complained about early footage from a BMD camera.

                        You didn't think the people who were clamoring to see footage would be happy with something that doesn't work for them, right?
                        You didnt have to wait that long to see some of what you needed... chill out.

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                        • #87
                          Posted in its own thread here:

                          http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.ph...m-John-Brawley
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                          • #88
                            Well that was enough skin tones to shut everyone up!
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Vinyl Stax View Post
                              The only reason I would be shooting the Magic cameras is because of the look they have had.
                              The other part of my post is just a relevant. I feel that the stuff you're losing your mind over is in the grade.

                              I've seen a lot of footage from the Pocket and Micro Cinema Camera and lot of Blackmagic shooters tend to grade warm and towards magenta. In the case of more poorly graded things, the footage is kept relatively low contrast or desaturated and a lot of both tends to be darker.

                              This footage has a lot of saturated blues, greens, and yellows with a lot of contrast. You can grade the original Pocket in the same way. So I don't think the look of the camera has changed in a huge way, I just think it wasn't graded in a way that many Micro and Pocket Cinema Camera shooters would and thus it looks like a huge departure in look to some people.

                              I'm apparently in the minority here, but when I look at some of the water shots, especially that first one with the sharp shadow on the left of the screen, I see qualities that feel familiar to me a Pocket shooter.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by ARTnVIDEO View Post
                                "Being satisfied with whatever is thrown your way is not what I'd call a virtue."
                                LMAO... straight up comedy! No doubt, but I'd hope we can both agree that patience is!

                                Wyatt already stated that BMD asked him specifically to shoot nature footage for the purpose of stressing the sensor. He also noted that he had very limited time with the camera. I get it, simple as that. Lets me know that I should see more footage soon.

                                Like everyone else I would have loved to see footage showcasing skin tones, different locations, and a variety of lighting conditions, but I'm not twisted up, and pouting thinking I wont soon see footage that does.

                                Soon BMD will release footage that

                                -Shows skin tones .
                                -Has a variety of lighting conditions/times of day.
                                -Shows both outdoor/location and lit scenes.
                                -Shows off the dual ISO.
                                -and may possibly have RAW files to download along with the footage.
                                And when they do, I’ll shut it. But it’s reasoble for people to express their genuine reaction to what they’ve seen, positive or otherwise.

                                PS - No one is saying that we won’t see more footage. Not sure where that idea came from.

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