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  • SmallRig Cage for Blackmagic Design Pocket Cinema Camera 4K 2203

    https://www.smallrig.com/smallrig-ca...a-4k-2203.html

    QUOTE FROM PAGE:
    "This item is still in design stage. We are brainstorming with our valued customers - that is you!
    Please share with us if you have any ideas or suggestions. If your idea is adopted as a core concept,
    you will be a CO-DESIGNER of this brand-new product and get one FOR FREE once it is officially released.
    Product details, subordinate functions, materials are subject to change without notice."


    You can discuss it here on facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/Smal...6445705376338/
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  • #2
    I love SmallRig products and I was thinking about the cage they would release for the P4K. I think this one looks great, not sure how it can be improved, but I think others will come up with an idea or two. IMO, what makes SmallRig such a great company is clever designed accessories at very affordable prices.

    FYI, there are more photos in the first link.
    Pocket 4K "Chaplin".

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    • #3
      The only thing I can think of is finding a way to attach a sun hood for the screen.
      Pocket 4K "Chaplin".

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      • #4
        Really? I think it is a terrible design. Problems:

        1. 270 gram. Pretty big and heavy.
        2. Why cover up the right handle? I want to use the right handle.
        3. There are not many screw holes on the top of the cage.
        4. No holes fore Metabone Speedbooster.

        etc...

        Some guy on facebook did some improvements:

        better.jpg

        IMHO the best way would be a "half cage". Something like this:

        cage_cr.jpg

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        • #5
          Yes, I second the idea of a half Cage.
          Cheers

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          • #6
            The guy made some good observations. Something better for the cable management on the left side needs to be made. I didn't pay enough attention to that part.

            As for covering up the right handle, this is a 'full' cage but you can still use the handle, IMO. Plus there're a few more mounting points on that side. If you plan using the camera's handle A LOT, I can see why you would prefer a 'half cage'.
            Pocket 4K "Chaplin".

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            • #7
              Full cages are very uncomfortable in my experience, I had one for the A7s ii and it didnt take long before I just removed the cage and sold it. However, I can see why people might want additional mounting points. I think the best of both worlds would be a removable right side of the cage.

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              • #8
                I agree that half cage is the way to go on this one, it looks really awkward to partially surround the grip. . The original pocket cages that included a mounded grip of some sort were great ad the camera was so small and it increased the mass,but that is not needed for the new one.

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                • #9
                  Please join facebook and "vote" for the "half cage" design or comment that you want a "half cage" design.
                  Another PRO for haolf cage is that it might be better to use it on a gimbal. Maybe SmallRig will release
                  a "full cage" and "half cage". i donīt know.

                  The "original cage design" sucks but it is great that SmallRig aks the users what they want.
                  So.. again. Please comment here:
                  https://www.facebook.com/groups/Smal...6445705376338/

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                  • #10
                    https://www.amazon.co.uk/JJC-Screen-...00+screen+hood

                    Something like this could be cool

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by dop16mm View Post
                      I agree that half cage is the way to go on this one, it looks really awkward to partially surround the grip. . The original pocket cages that included a mounded grip of some sort were great ad the camera was so small and it increased the mass,but that is not needed for the new one.
                      Half-Agreed.

                      I find half-cages only half-useful.... But I agree that in THIS instance they should not block the camera's handgrip.

                      Top handle mounting is VERY important on a cage that might end up with a lot of stuff on it. I always prefered the MovCAM cages because the top-handle mount lets you slide from side-to-side to achieve perfect balance when carrying by the handle - this allows not only safer hauling but helps a TON in unusual types of hand-held shots. A TON.

                      Cable locks are also a must otherwise the cage start to get into the "why bother?" category.

                      I know SmallRig stuff is great, but the cages I have owned have proven that you do NOT have to end up with a heavy cage when designing a full cage.
                      Cameras: Blackmagic Cinema Camera, Blackmagic Pocket Camera (x2), Panasonic GH2 (x2), Sony RX100 ii, Canon 6D, Canon T2i,
                      Mics: Sennheiser, AKG, Shure, Sanken, Audio-Technica, Audix
                      Lights: Every Chinese clone you can imagine

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JordanWright View Post
                        +1. This should be the screen hood, not those flimsy velcro and hard board hoods.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dop16mm View Post
                          I agree that half cage is the way to go on this one, it looks really awkward to partially surround the grip. . The original pocket cages that included a mounded grip of some sort were great ad the camera was so small and it increased the mass,but that is not needed for the new one.
                          Yes to a half cage, and the half cage that does not cover the bottom also so that the battery compartment can be used with battery grips that third party will be producing. I'm looking forward to companies that makes battery grips to be designing and manufacturing for the BMPCC4K.

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                          • #14
                            Would a half cage that doesn't mount in the bottom be strong enough?

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                            • #15
                              Unless BM really improves the inserts they use for tripod mounts, you need a cage that connects top and bottom. The body is big enough that a half cage should be big enough to attach rails and top handle. Maybe it could be more like 3/4 with a support spar that wraps the lens mount without blocking the hand grip. I agree that cable support is crucial and that the covers will probably have to be removed for cage use.

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