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  • Letus Helix 3 Axis Gimbal thoughts + Updates

    Deciding to put this here because I've been asked a lot of questions.

    This is my set up.


    BMCC MFT
    Sigma 18-35mm + Speedbooster
    Smallhd DP7 Pro + 2 NPF550
    Edelkrone mount
    Thin SDI

    Total weight is ~15-15.5lbs (including gimbal)
    No Post Stabilization







    Initial thoughts:
    I HAVE used a gimbal before (I owned a Besteady One) and I find the holding both the Letus and the Besteady comparable in how it tires you out. This is great considering one is 5-6lbs and the other is 15lbs +.
    Currently I believe the SDI cable definitely needs to be a thin SDI cable. I'm ordering one right now though can't seem to find one that's 12 inches, will probably get an 18" one.

    The customer service at Letus was amazing. My friends and I drove 3 hours from Seattle. We planned on staying for 30 minutes. We stayed for almost 3 hours. They ordered us pizza! I find that the basecam software is much more "manual and requires you learn it" compared to the Besteady one. In essence, the Besteady's software is easier to use but the Letus is significantly easier to physically handle. The Besteady would act up and so forth. We're finding balancing harder than we expected though that might have to do with the SDI cable. Tonight I will test with only the camera. Tomorrow we're going to have a training session with Letus online.

    Overall I'm a big fan of the company but right now the calibration at letus produced steadier footage than what we can do though we have NOT used the software to calibrate it. It allows for the standard modification that gyros allow for but it is something I was not familiar with.

    UPDATE 1:
    Selecting a profile can be confusing. Hien recommended that I use a tablet and today rooted my brother's Nook HD+. Paired perfectly with the Letus Helix via bluetooth.
    Last edited by Note Suwanchote; 08-18-2014, 05:08 PM.
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  • #2
    Ok im gonna move my question here since im very interested in the helix.
    When did you order and how fast did you get it?
    Dustin Uy-Filmmaker

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Note Suwanchote View Post
      This is my set up.
      My first impression is, that the monitor, especially with the batteries, would make it pretty top heavy and hard to balance.
      Any reason why you don't isolate the monitor from the camera?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Frank Glencairn View Post
        My first impression is, that the monitor, especially with the batteries, would make it pretty top heavy and hard to balance.
        Any reason why you don't isolate the monitor from the camera?
        That's absolutely right. I currently do not have a cheaper monitor (will order a 5" Lilliput) and it is nearly impossible/ extremely difficult to monitor what you're shooting since the screen is almost covered by one of the IMU/dual rods. Though you could get a wireless kit + an android tablet—which btw acts as an RC controller + replicates the SimpleBCG app functionality fully.

        Once you get the balance right, the marks make it much easier. I have to confess I'm not very good at balancing but my younger brother balances it in about 2-3 minutes (if its not pre balanced).
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        • #5
          Will put up some footage in a bit. Received a new system needs tweaking (the footage will NOT have the tweaked profile)


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          • #6
            Ran out and shot this in 20 minutes



            Yeah the fake sound is bad haha
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            • #7
              Love your setup there with the Helix, but with the pitch axis going through your hands , makes for a high center of gravity, which must be pretty tiring quite fast. Still, a very sexy setup and useful info. I was considering the Helix, but I am probably going for the DJI Ronin or EU based BeSteady.

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              • #8
                Note:
                When did you order and how fast did you get it?
                Dustin Uy-Filmmaker

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by k0bayashi View Post
                  Love your setup there with the Helix, but with the pitch axis going through your hands , makes for a high center of gravity, which must be pretty tiring quite fast. Still, a very sexy setup and useful info. I was considering the Helix, but I am probably going for the DJI Ronin or EU based BeSteady.
                  compared to my besteady one at 5lbs, the helix is easier. The placement of your arms is closer to your body whereas with a t bar set up it's far apart.

                  Originally posted by dcloud View Post
                  Note:
                  When did you order and how fast did you get it?
                  I ordered sometime in May/June I believe. I got it last week.
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                  • #10
                    Have you tried mounting your monitor on the handle instead of on the camera body?
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                    • #11
                      Thats not a bad turn around. Thanks note! Youve been a really great help.
                      Dustin Uy-Filmmaker

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by soupkitchen View Post
                        Have you tried mounting your monitor on the handle instead of on the camera body?
                        I have not, but I'll try and let yog know.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dan Kanes
                          Note - that looked pretty nice! I like the grade. looking forward to seeing it get even better once you feel the Yaw is fully dialed, but looks like a good start.

                          Thanks Dan!

                          I have 2 units with me. One was the one I shot with on the Pier but the one on that video was a different one. The same profile didn't work as well on that body and I'll be adjusting it in the next few days.
                          The amazing thing was that I emailed Hien at 930PM and at 1200AM and received a new unit at 700pm (I'm in Seattle and they're in Portland).

                          Tomorrow we'll be going to visit Letus HQ and hopefully bring an FS700 with us.
                          Also I noticed the lack of pics of the Helix.





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                          • #14
                            FS700 works very very well with the Helix.
                            Tried with Canon 24mm 2.8 with E mount to Canon in addition to the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 Nikon.

                            We also tested a 70-200mm on there.




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                            • #15
                              Here's some FS700 footage at 240fps with the Letus Helix.
                              Just need a focus system now.
                              All of it is on the gimbal including the opening shot




                              Long version:
                              Last edited by Note Suwanchote; 08-13-2014, 10:22 AM.
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