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shay
04-14-2014, 05:26 PM
hey everyone,
i noticed that i am really suck to using a shoulder rig.
i really am , most of my shoots are not usable and very shaky (specialy when moving fast). i love/"my style" is that the camera moving with my subject. )
dose it need to be like this with shoulder rig, and stabilise after in post ?
(i tested a couple of rigs)

dose a thing like that can help/any one tested such thing ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SLR-DSLR-Rig-Support-Rod-Shoulder-Waist-Belt-for-DV-Camcorder-Video-Camera-/271430107834?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f327ec2ba

am i missing something ?

i am not considering a stabiliser cause my main lens is a nikon 24-70mm and when changing focal length the parts in the lens are moving ,
and also for the reason that stabilisers are taking time to stabilise and i want to work fast .

Frank Glencairn
04-14-2014, 05:41 PM
... and i want to work fast .

There is your problem - haste makes waste.

There is only so much "stabilization" you can do with a shoulder rig and the faster you move the more shaky it gets.
Nature of the beast - that rig doesn't help much ether, when you are walking it probably gets even worse, caus the hip movement works its way up to the rig.

Maybe something like a EasyRig http://www.easyrig.com/ or some of the knockoffs wouldbe a good solution for you.

jambredz
04-14-2014, 07:30 PM
Yup... U need a well balanced rig with some weight on it. Not necessarily adding weights (although u can) but a heavy enough balanced rig is what i mean. Weight adds a stability and a certain inertia to your movement making it smoother. Add something like an easy rig (that Frank posted) to the equation and its even better. Then all it takes is practise and proper lens choices.. On the bmcc i would not go past 35mm. 35mm and below is very nice with a proper rig for handheld shots. I love doing handheld but it has to be done right for it to look good.

The rig in your link is really crappy and will leave ur hands very tired very fast. Maybe if u lose the pole in the waist and add an easy rig to that one in your link it would help.

shay
04-15-2014, 06:33 PM
thanks guys i will read more about this rig :)

shay
04-15-2014, 06:40 PM
do u think something like that might help ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shoulder-DSLR-Belly-Support-Rig-W-Sunshade-Hood-for-Professional-Movie-Video-/371032181526?pt=FR_IQ_PhotoVideo_Accessoires_Acces soires_Photo&hash=item56633dcb16
to get support also in my chest ?

shay
04-15-2014, 06:42 PM
the easyrig is very expensive , and i will sure want to try it before putting lots of money on it

Norman B. Miller
04-16-2014, 02:39 AM
Here is another similar rig which I bought but have not used yet.. I think it was around $400.. http://atlascamerasupport.com They are out of Hollywood.. Theres allot of video on the site that shows how it works with different cameras.. Hope this helps..

shay
04-16-2014, 02:43 PM
did u test it . dose it work that well ?

jambredz
04-17-2014, 05:20 AM
Shay im sorry i really meant the atlas rig :). Yes easy rig is crazy money but the atlas (poor man's easy rig) works very well. Roman (a user here) uses it and has a video review of his shoulder rig which he uses his atlas with. He loves it. Long review but i enjoyed it

https://vimeo.com/87444006

I also know a few people who use it and love it.

shay
04-17-2014, 09:54 AM
i had a spider rig but i broke it,
can u recommend me of a rig and how to walk with one to prevent shakes ?

Anthony Bristol
04-17-2014, 09:58 AM
This is well worth a watch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHcYjKpJb-I

Roman
04-17-2014, 12:35 PM
Like others have said. Take a look at the Atlas camera support / rig. It's not a stabilizer, but it does come with the benefit of allowing your own body to stabilize MUCH better than it would otherwise be able to do. Taking all the weight off your shoulder and allowing you to control the camera in such a way that a 3rd point of contact is always "dampening" your own movements, so they don't come across as harsh.

And try using a wide lens. If you walk around with a 50mm lens on your shoulder without some experience it's gonna look really, really bad with the BMCC's sensor size. If you shoot at around 20mm or so, you should get some very usable footage handheld.

Using the Canon 17-55 IS lens, would really help as well. In fact with that lens, you could go 100% handheld without a rig or support of any kind and it would actually look really good. Some lenses have amazing IS and make handheld work look great.