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Peter J. DeCrescenzo
08-23-2012, 07:56 PM
Frank Glencairn has received a pre-release BMCC for review: See his posts later in this very thread (http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?809-FYI-Marco-Solorio-amp-Vincent-Laforet-have-pre-release-BMCCs&p=16216&viewfull=1#post16216). Also check his "Test Diary (http://frankglencairn.wordpress.com/2012/08/24/first-hands-on-the-blackmagic-cinema-camera-test-diary/)" when he has time to begin working with the camera. Here's Frank's BMCC Unboxing Video (http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?818-Unboxing-Video&).

Marco Solorio has also received one of these units. See his posts on CreativeCOW and Facebook:
http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/367/126
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.493724947322557.124136.115659998462389

And Vincent Laforet has also:
http://twitter.com/vincentlaforet/status/238786185022025730

JB confirmed that Philip Bloom (http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?809-FYI-Marco-Solorio-amp-Vincent-Laforet-have-pre-release-BMCCs&p=16186&viewfull=1#post16186) has one (well, for the first few days, his cats have a BMCC!), too. And here it is (http://philipbloom.net/2012/08/24/bmd-camera/).

As noted by Yuns in post #78 (http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?809-FYI-Marco-Solorio-amp-Vincent-Laforet-have-pre-release-BMCCs&p=16588&viewfull=1#post16588):

Josh Diamond:
https://twitter.com/josh_diamond

... and, Sean Seah of Firewerkz Film:
http://firewerkzfilms.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh_Yk0PEDRE

... and, Sebastian Wiegärtner:
http://wiegaertnerfilms.com/category/microblog/

... and, James Tonkin of Hangman Studios:
https://twitter.com/hangmanstudios
http://twitpic.com/photos/hangmanstudios

... and, Jim Geduldick working with Spike Jonze:
https://twitter.com/prettysweet_mov
http://twitter.com/filmbot

... and Dan Kanes:
http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?865-My-First-Few-Hours-with-the-BMCC&
http://dankanesbmcc.blogspot.com/
http://www.youtube.com/embed/m14NPkYp4Ms

... and Glendyn Ivin, who directed the recent "Puberty Blues" TVS with DP John Brawley.
http://twitter.com/Glendyn_Ivin

... have BMCCs as well.

Lucky people!

Anyone else confirmed? I'll try to keep this first post up-to-date for the first dozen or so review units.

Jake Vincent
08-23-2012, 08:44 PM
Thanks for the info

cgurtlinger
08-23-2012, 08:54 PM
Thanks for the links! And those are some lucky fellows indeed!!!

Brian@202020
08-23-2012, 09:25 PM
I'm not a big Bloom fan, but I bet he gets one as well.

Kholi
08-23-2012, 09:28 PM
One thing's for sure, I'm glad a serious narrative veteran got the camera first out of everyone out there. I saw everything I needed to see the very first time footage was released, saw even more the next three times.

At this point, really don't even need to see what these other guys are doing but maybe it'll sway others so that's cool. Me want camera, me break camera, put other mount on.

Good work, Brawley!

Trevor Roach
08-23-2012, 10:07 PM
Already sold by everything JB has done, but it'll still be nice to check out others footage and outlook on the camera while I wait for mine to arrive =D

randyman
08-23-2012, 10:17 PM
I wouldn't blame John for being a little relieved at no longer being alone in the eye of the hurricane. From the sound of things, it might not be that long before the rest of get our turn, as well…

Trevor Roach
08-23-2012, 10:25 PM
I wouldn't blame John for being a little relieved at no longer being alone in the eye of the hurricane. From the sound of things, it might not be that long before the rest of get our turn, as well…

Yeah, John, you've been amazing. I know everyone has thanked you but I can't give you enough!
And I also am getting the feeling it's near go-time for the camera. Between the RAW footage being released, the new forum, and test builds being sent out, we are very close :)

John Brawley
08-23-2012, 11:20 PM
I'm not a big Bloom fan, but I bet he gets one as well.

He has one now.

jb

Lorenzo Straight
08-23-2012, 11:39 PM
Yeah, I knew Bloom couldn't be out of the loop for long.

mbeck
08-23-2012, 11:46 PM
No offense to the Bloggers.. but I'd be much more interested in ME getting one at this point ;)

Kholi
08-23-2012, 11:54 PM
No offense to the Bloggers.. but I'd be much more interested in ME getting one at this point ;)

Statement approved.

Dan Pears
08-24-2012, 12:01 AM
I agree regarding a narrative film maker getting the first one over bloggers. Actually seeing the camera in use, not just an artsy camera test. Also, valuable real world experience going into helping the design. At least Philip Bloom will produce an in depth review video which will be interesting.

Frank Glencairn
08-24-2012, 12:48 AM
He has one now.

jb

UPS seems to be faster in the UK than here.

The eagle should land for me any minute..

Frank

nickjbedford
08-24-2012, 01:35 AM
I wants mine!

soupkitchen
08-24-2012, 01:39 AM
I second that. Prepare for a total lack of camera tests posted on vimeo from me.

If I do post one, someone please hunt me down and beat me to a pulp.

Frank Glencairn
08-24-2012, 01:59 AM
Look what the cat dragged in

687

... and before you guys start hyperventilating, no - it's not a camera I ordered somewhere.
BM asked me, if I want to give it a test ride.

Frank

jsfotografie
08-24-2012, 02:01 AM
damn! frank seems your no one :D lucky you :-)

Frank Glencairn
08-24-2012, 02:26 AM
Sitting nice in her Tilta rig

688

Cornelius
08-24-2012, 02:35 AM
It. . . Begins!

Andrew
08-24-2012, 02:36 AM
Look what the cat dragged in

687

... and before you guys start hyperventilating, no - it's not a camera I ordered somewhere.
BM asked me, if I want to give it a test ride.

Frank

Congrats! Are you allowed to upload sample footage?

Cornelius
08-24-2012, 02:37 AM
Look what the cat dragged in

687

... and before you guys start hyperventilating, no - it's not a camera I ordered somewhere.
BM asked me, if I want to give it a test ride.

Frank

Also for some reason, seeing the box had more more excited than seeing the camera. It's just so . . real.

I'm in agreement with most, I'm so glad BMD stuck with one guy through this. But now I'm looking forward to seeing what other people shoot.

Kingswell
08-24-2012, 02:50 AM
Look what the cat dragged in

687

... and before you guys start hyperventilating, no - it's not a camera I ordered somewhere.
BM asked me, if I want to give it a test ride.

Frank

Its so beautiful i want to cry

t.p.
08-24-2012, 02:58 AM
im soooo envy , frank your one lucky guy , please post allot of tests soon , before i really do start hyperventilating :)

Frank Glencairn
08-24-2012, 02:58 AM
Congrats! Are you allowed to upload sample footage?

Yup.

I gonna do a test diary on my blog - http://frankglencairn.wordpress.com/2012/08/24/first-hands-on-the-blackmagic-cinema-camera-test-diary/

Unfortunately I have to finish an edit today.
So I have her sitting here beside me and instead of doing with her, what I want to do, I have to bolt this stupid commercial together.

It's killing me.

Frank

Kingswell
08-24-2012, 03:00 AM
I can babysit if needed Frank

Frank Glencairn
08-24-2012, 03:06 AM
Nice try :)

Andrew
08-24-2012, 03:25 AM
Yup.

I gonna do a test diary on my blog - http://frankglencairn.wordpress.com/2012/08/24/first-hands-on-the-blackmagic-cinema-camera-test-diary/

Unfortunately I have to finish an edit today.
So I have her sitting here beside me and instead of doing with her, what I want to do, I have to bolt this stupid commercial together.

It's killing me.

Frank

Awesome! Can't wait! I think the responsible thing to do in this situation is to turn your internet off, buckle down and finish the commercial, and then shoot and share! Or you could always just ditch the commercial.

Good luck, I feel your pain.

Dan Pears
08-24-2012, 03:29 AM
Its going to get exciting over the weekend I think.

Cornelius
08-24-2012, 03:57 AM
Its going to get exciting over the weekend I think.

Looks that way!

webmov
08-24-2012, 04:01 AM
Frank, if you have serendipitously a resolution chart .... :)

John Brawley
08-24-2012, 04:01 AM
Welcome to the club Frank.

You won't want to leave.

jb

Frank Glencairn
08-24-2012, 04:03 AM
Welcome to the club Frank.

You won't want to leave.

jb

In the moment I just have a hard time to get that stupid grin of from my face. :)

David
08-24-2012, 04:10 AM
Congrats Frank!

mhood
08-24-2012, 06:32 AM
Kudos Frank! How does it feel to be a "prominent blogger"? :-)

Please don't forget the DNxHD footage. I realize you probably can't say but I'm sooooo curious to know what is under NDA. ;-)

Brian@202020
08-24-2012, 07:05 AM
So if ProRes is is part of the NDA, I wonder if it's just something simple like the the certification isn't done yet, or is it something bigger like full res ProRes about to be supported realtime by FCPX or something?

Yaso
08-24-2012, 07:27 AM
Dito, mbeck.

Philip Lipetz
08-24-2012, 09:28 AM
Frank,

I use your FS100 profiles on our team's rentals. I love them. You brought more out of that camera than I thought possible. Was renting C300s but your FS100 profiles made a more affordable solution work. You have our gratitude forever.

I would be most appreciative if you did post processing profiles for both compressed and RAW. I am sure that they will similarly open up the BMCC. You can always make a great camera sing, dance and spill forth golden nuggets.

Philip Lipetz
08-24-2012, 09:45 AM
One thing's for sure, I'm glad a serious narrative veteran got the camera first out of everyone out there. I saw everything I needed to see the very first time footage was released, saw even more the next three times.

At this point, really don't even need to see what these other guys are doing but maybe it'll sway others so that's cool. Me want camera, me break camera, put other mount on.

Good work, Brawley!

I bet they show new ways to use its flexibility.

Vincent Thomas
08-24-2012, 09:51 AM
As you own the f700, looking forward your feedback, have fun



In the moment I just have a hard time to get that stupid grin of from my face. :)

Cedric Akins
08-24-2012, 09:54 AM
In the moment I just have a hard time to get that stupid grin of from my face. :)

LOL

Kholi
08-24-2012, 09:58 AM
I bet they show new ways to use its flexibility.

I hope everyone that has an early camera takes a lot of time and care coloring their footage.. Vincent will probably get a real colorist to finish his work.

Might be that LA Negative Nancy thing Peter mentioned a few days ago. xD

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
08-24-2012, 10:27 AM
Congrats, Frank, on receiving a BMCC for review!

If you've had a chance to power it up, and if your NDA allows, can you confirm whether or not VU or audio peaking meters are displayed on the LCD? Also, which version firmware is installed on the review unit (if that info is displayed somewhere)?

And I also request that you post a brief sample DNxHD log clip (because its compressed) ASAP. We've seen RAW DNGs, now let's see something lightly compressed. Thanks in advance.

Cheers!

PaulDelVecchio
08-24-2012, 10:31 AM
Statement approved.

Exactly. John's footage has sold me a million times over at this point. That's all I needed.

Kholi
08-24-2012, 10:38 AM
Barry really (as usual) hits the nail on the head when he says just ship the darned camera.

You don't need to create hype anymore, I do understand John's testing though because that's part of cam development.

Oh well, hoping with the rest of yous guys that we're truly just a week off from shipping...

Brian@202020
08-24-2012, 10:44 AM
Barry really (as usual) hits the nail on the head when he says just ship the darned camera.

You don't need to create hype anymore, I do understand John's testing though because that's part of cam development.

Oh well, hoping with the rest of yous guys that we're truly just a week off from shipping...

I look at it as these guys are beta testing. BMD is probably 99% ready to ship, but want to be 100% sure, before they ship. I bet these guys get a week and if there is no issues it'll ship.

mbeck
08-24-2012, 10:47 AM
I look at it as these guys are beta testing. BMD is probably 99% ready to ship, but want to be 100% sure, before they ship. I bet these guys get a week and if there is no issues it'll ship.
Maybe.. but more than likely they are just waiting on certification. Once they get that, they will ship these suckers right away!

erick
08-24-2012, 10:48 AM
As you own the f700, looking forward your feedback, have fun

Me too! In particular, how it compares in low light with the FS700. I almost broke down and bought one of these a few weeks ago but I really love the look of the BMC so I'm waiting. I am shooting a horror in October so I need something that can handle dark exteriors really well.

Frank Glencairn
08-24-2012, 10:54 AM
Unfortunately I still have to edit this commercial, so I don’t have much time to play with the BMC today.

But during a little render pause, I slapped an Nikon adapter and a 35mm Samjang on it, and gave it a first glance.

What really stroked me, when I looked at that few seconds I shot, was the DOF.
Having the sensor size in mind, I was prepared for much deeper DOF, like 16mm film.
But when you come from Super 35 and not from a FF-sensor, the difference is much less, than I thought.
Even at f2.8 or f4, it’s still very nice, and not any videoish.

So.... back to that commercial.

Frank

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
08-24-2012, 10:58 AM
Barry really (as usual) hits the nail on the head when he says just ship the darned camera.

You don't need to create hype anymore, I do understand John's testing though because that's part of cam development.

Oh well, hoping with the rest of yous guys that we're truly just a week off from shipping...

The review units going out is actually kinda interesting. I mean, "Why?"

It could just be BMD's marketing department going through the motions, sending out review units like as if the BMCC is just another product, like it was a Decklink card or something. Which if true is both funny and sad.

Or, it's BMD's product development and/or engineering depts. wanting a broader, last-minute, user feedback response, as a final real-world check to be sure they (and JB) haven't missed something. Despite JB's Herculean efforts (thanks John!!!), sometimes the best thing to do is get 0.01% of a million monkeys banging on a product's buttons, menus, power cycles, environments, plug-in myriad audio sources, video display devices, LANC doodads, etc. -- and see what happens. One guy (JB) will do that, too, eventually, but 1-2 dozen guys & gals will get you there much much sooner. If Frank or Marco or Vincent or Phil, etc. find some weird bug, then that may or may not delay the BMCC's release a bit, depending on what it is. Likewise, if all of the reviewers report essentially "no problems", then BMD can feel pretty confident about proceeding with shipping. Note: BMD may know of bug(s) but ship anyway. This is common practice. All products ship with bugs, at least initially. Some products ship with bugs continuously (e.g.: Adobe Flash Player). Depending on the issue, most users may never experience a problem with the product. YMMV.

Or, it's a clever delay tactic. BMD may have a building full (http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?491-The-SHIPPING-STATUS-thread-Do-not-post-other-threads&p=8085&viewfull=1#post8085) of "final" hardware ready to ship, but can't release the product quite yet because of "certification" (read: contractual) reasons, so they send some BMCCs to a bunch of modern day "thought-leaders" to keep us all occupied until shipments to dealers & end user customers can begin.

Or, any one of a thousand other possible scenarios, such as (http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?491-The-SHIPPING-STATUS-thread-Do-not-post-other-threads&p=14870&viewfull=1#post14870).

I still think we customers will start receiving our BMCCs by about mid Sept. 2012. Fingers crossed.

Brian@202020
08-24-2012, 10:59 AM
Ok Frank I guess you're still smart since you are actually working. Thanks for the update.

Cornelius
08-24-2012, 11:00 AM
Unfortunately I still have to edit this commercial, so I don’t have much time to play with the BMC today.

But during a little render pause, I slapped an Nikon adapter and a 35mm Samjang on it, and gave it a first glance.

What really stroked me, when I looked at that few seconds I shot, was the DOF.
Having the sensor size in mind, I was prepared for much deeper DOF, like 16mm film.
But when you come from Super 35 and not from a FF-sensor, the difference is much less, than I thought.
Even at f2.8 or f4, it’s still very nice, and not any videoish.

So.... back to that commercial.

Frank

Stay strong and keep working on that edit!

Frank Glencairn
08-24-2012, 11:02 AM
It's killing me, having that camera sitting on my desk, looking at me and I have to finish that thing.

Brian@202020
08-24-2012, 11:03 AM
It's killing me, having that camera sitting on my desk, looking at me and I have to finish that thing.

Turn the BMCC into a live webcam so we can all watch you edit :)

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
08-24-2012, 11:04 AM
It's killing me, having that camera sitting on my desk, looking at me and I have to finish that thing.

Do the right thing: Overnight ship the d*mn thing to Kholi! ;-)






(The commercial, not the BMCC.) LOL!

Kholi
08-24-2012, 11:07 AM
Or, it's a clever delay tactic. BMD may have a building full of "final" hardware ready to ship, but can't release the product quite yet because of "certification" (read: contractual) reasons, so they send some BMCCs to a bunch of modern day "thought-leaders" to keep us all occupied until shipments to dealers & end user customers can begin.

Or, any one of a thousand other scenarios.

I still think we customers will start receiving our BMCCs by about mid Sept. 2012. Fingers crossed.

I find that last one to be the most likely. It shouldn't be a surprise because they did say a while back that we would see these people with cameras right before it was going to ship, but it does seem like it's something to "keep people busy" while the certification process is still going on.

I'm a bit more optimistic about September now, I guess.


Do the right thing: Overnight ship the d*mn thing to Kholi! ;-)






(The commercial, not the BMCC.) LOL!

This has actually happened to me twice, man. u_u The things we do for money.

Frank Glencairn
08-24-2012, 11:18 AM
Turn the BMCC into a live webcam so we can all watch you edit :)

You don't want to see that. It's pretty hot here and I edit in my underware.

See - now you need brain bleach :cool:

Brian@202020
08-24-2012, 11:36 AM
Scary Frank, scary.

cksunny
08-24-2012, 11:36 AM
You don't want to see that. It's pretty hot here and I edit in my underware.

See - now you need brain bleach :cool:

LOL epic.

Tzedekh
08-24-2012, 12:22 PM
Scary Frank, scary.
Could be worse -- he could edit in his birthday suit.

markmwilliams
08-24-2012, 03:36 PM
Could be worse -- he could edit in his birthday suit.

No amount of dynamic range is going to make that shot pretty :p

mbeck
08-24-2012, 03:41 PM
No amount of dynamic range is going to make that shot pretty :p
In fact, the less DR the better!

mhood
08-24-2012, 03:45 PM
Noise! We're going to want a lot more noise.

Cornelius
08-24-2012, 04:09 PM
Sounds like a job for the interns.

Thekreative
08-24-2012, 04:27 PM
Could be worse -- he could edit in his birthday suit.

But it's probably underware form the 1930:)

rheex
08-24-2012, 04:47 PM
Somebody else in Germany has just made another video. His name is Sebastian W., I've never heard of him.
He's posted it in his Facebook wall:

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10151130949893158&saved

Brian Self
08-24-2012, 04:51 PM
yeah dont record that stuff in 2k.

rheex
08-24-2012, 04:58 PM
You don't want to see that. It's pretty hot here and I edit in my underware.

Hahahha! Well, it's ok as long as your director isn't sitting next to you in his underwear too. :-))

Congrats on receiving the beats. Waiting for your review. Cheers

Sri
08-24-2012, 05:47 PM
But it's probably underware form the 1930:)

Damn! Everything was fine until I ended up seeing Frank's photo on his web site. Now I can put an image to all your ...ahem...suggestions! Not fair, I say! :-)

Andrew
08-24-2012, 07:38 PM
http://philipbloom.net/2012/08/24/bmd-camera/

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
08-24-2012, 09:26 PM
Hi Frank: Thank you for the confirmation about the (current lack of) VU meters. I also liked seeing that the BMCC "boots up" very quickly in your unboxing video. Cheers!

Osslund
08-25-2012, 02:04 AM
Are settings adjustable when recording? Like aperture, ISO, audio levels and other things you might need to adjust when shooting.

John Brawley
08-25-2012, 04:19 AM
Are settings adjustable when recording? Like aperture, ISO, audio levels and other things you might need to adjust when shooting.

You can change settins like aperture, (if it's an EF lens) audio levels, WB and ISO whilst recording. You do loose the image from the back of the camera screen while the menu is up of course. Fine if you're monitoring off the HDSDI though.

jb

clairstyler
08-25-2012, 05:23 AM
So if you have an external monitor connected, can you check VU's on the menu on the internal touchscreen when recording?

John Brawley
08-25-2012, 05:44 AM
So if you have an external monitor connected, can you check VU's on the menu on the internal touchscreen when recording?


Yes you can adjust levels. NO you can't see VU's.

There are no VU's in the camera. Only though Thunderbolt or a monitor that can display them via the embedded HDSDI.

jb

Menno Mennes
08-25-2012, 07:41 AM
Frank Glencairn has received a pre-release BMCC for review: See his posts later in this very thread (http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?809-FYI-Marco-Solorio-amp-Vincent-Laforet-have-pre-release-BMCCs&p=16216&viewfull=1#post16216). Also check his "Test Diary (http://frankglencairn.wordpress.com/2012/08/24/first-hands-on-the-blackmagic-cinema-camera-test-diary/)" when he has time to begin working with the camera. Here's Frank's BMCC Unboxing Video (http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?818-Unboxing-Video&).

Marco Solorio has also received one of these units. See his posts on CreativeCOW and Facebook:
http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/367/126
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.493724947322557.124136.115659998462389

And Vincent Laforet has also:
http://twitter.com/vincentlaforet/status/238786185022025730

JB confirmed that Philip Bloom (http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?809-FYI-Marco-Solorio-amp-Vincent-Laforet-have-pre-release-BMCCs&p=16186&viewfull=1#post16186) has one, too. And here it is (http://philipbloom.net/2012/08/24/bmd-camera/).

Lucky fellows!

Anyone else confirmed? I'll try to keep this first post up-to-date for the first dozen or so review units.

I am curious which company has built the beautiful rig around the BM camera, on the facebook site of Marco Slorio.

Best wishes!

Gwangjuboy
08-25-2012, 08:00 AM
I have doubts any of the testers will post footage using more budget lenses that the majority of us will use. The testers will have some great glass being professionals which isn't going to show us anything John Brawley hasn't already done. I wait in hope but I think I'm going to have to wait till its out to the masses to see how the cheaper lenses will perform on it.

Yuns
08-25-2012, 08:06 AM
Josh Diamond
https://twitter.com/josh_diamond
and
Sean Seah of Firewerkz Film
http://firewerkzfilms.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh_Yk0PEDRE
have BMCC as well

Cornelius
08-25-2012, 08:29 AM
I have doubts any of the testers will post footage using more budget lenses that the majority of us will use. The testers will have some great glass being professionals which isn't going to show us anything John Brawley hasn't already done. I wait in hope but I think I'm going to have to wait till its out to the masses to see how the cheaper lenses will perform on it.

I think you'd be surprised. Hopefully we'll find the more DSLR orientated guys will use some common lenses. I've seen one guy using a L-glass on Canon that isn't too pricey. (not footage though, just a picture) Fingers crossed right? I would love to see the Tokina in use.

funwithstuff
08-25-2012, 08:40 AM
I have doubts any of the testers will post footage using more budget lenses that the majority of us will use. The testers will have some great glass being professionals which isn't going to show us anything John Brawley hasn't already done. I wait in hope but I think I'm going to have to wait till its out to the masses to see how the cheaper lenses will perform on it.

I don't have any really expensive glass, so as soon as I get the camera, I'll be testing it with some 1960s Super Takumars, a Tamron 28-75 2.8, a nifty 50mm 1.8, and... the Canon 18-55 kit lens. Just for kicks. :)

Osslund
08-25-2012, 08:49 AM
Thanks JB. Then it would be very practical to have the screen in menu mode while shooting when there's a monior attached to the camera<.

Gwangjuboy
08-25-2012, 09:09 AM
I don't have any really expensive glass, so as soon as I get the camera, I'll be testing it with some 1960s Super Takumars, a Tamron 28-75 2.8, a nifty 50mm 1.8, and... the Canon 18-55 kit lens. Just for kicks. :)

That would be great. I actually do want to see the 18-55 it's not that bad and I may just use it till I decide on what lenses I want to invest in. I think a ton of people want to know how wide we can get without distortion with Tokina 11-16 and the Sigma 8-16 being ones of interest. I think a lot of people also want to know what faster zooms look like on it. Look forward to your tests.

mbeck
08-25-2012, 09:24 AM
I have doubts any of the testers will post footage using more budget lenses that the majority of us will use. The testers will have some great glass being professionals which isn't going to show us anything John Brawley hasn't already done. I wait in hope but I think I'm going to have to wait till its out to the masses to see how the cheaper lenses will perform on it.
In blooms un-boxing photos he has the tokina 11-16mm 2.8 on it.

Gwangjuboy
08-25-2012, 09:30 AM
In blooms un-boxing photos he has the tokina 11-16mm 2.8 on it.



And he said he can't shot anything for a week....

adam777
08-25-2012, 04:39 PM
Please sticky this thread

Gwangjuboy
08-25-2012, 11:36 PM
Why doesn't this forum make an official BMC User Vimeo channel. It would be good to know where any new footage might end up.

Cornelius
08-26-2012, 06:47 AM
Why doesn't this forum make an official BMC User Vimeo channel. It would be good to know where any new footage might end up.

Good idea. First Vimeo, then the world!

funwithstuff
08-26-2012, 07:20 AM
That would be great. I actually do want to see the 18-55 it's not that bad and I may just use it till I decide on what lenses I want to invest in. I think a ton of people want to know how wide we can get without distortion with Tokina 11-16 and the Sigma 8-16 being ones of interest. I think a lot of people also want to know what faster zooms look like on it. Look forward to your tests.

Very, very curious to know just how good cheaper lenses look. We're using the sweet spot of most lenses, so will it make those kit lenses sing? I've also got a pro photgrapher friend with a huge collection of Canon L lenses, so maybe I'll just turn up to his place and shoot half an SSD's worth.

Yuns
08-26-2012, 10:04 AM
We do already have some footage of Canon glass from jb. Shots 4 and 5 in the Afterglow footage were done with a Canon 50mm 1.4 L lens and the two extrawide shots in Pieces were done with a Canon 15-85 EF-S.

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
08-26-2012, 11:23 AM
And another unboxing video:
http://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=269&sid=7980e7ddfd2d22f1c658a892df27c83e

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
08-26-2012, 11:32 AM
Vincent loves the quality of the BMCC footage he's getting with his review unit:
http://twitter.com/vincentlaforet/status/239300644668862464/photo/1
http://twitter.com/vincentlaforet/status/239300644668862464/photo/1

His Twitter feed:
http://twitter.com/vincentlaforet

Yuns
08-26-2012, 11:35 AM
Someone else on twitter is out shooting on the BMCC and posting pictures to his twitter.

https://twitter.com/prettysweet_mov

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
08-26-2012, 11:40 AM
Someone else on twitter is out shooting on the BMCC and posting pictures to his twitter.
https://twitter.com/prettysweet_mov

Thanks for the link! But, ugh, skateboarding video ... hey, whatever the kids will pay for I guess! It's all good. :-)

mhood
08-26-2012, 11:45 AM
Someone else on twitter is out shooting on the BMCC and posting pictures to his twitter.

https://twitter.com/prettysweet_mov


Pretty Sweet ‏@prettysweet_mov

First day out with the Black Magic Cinema Camera. Canon 70 - 200 lens with supported IS and iris control. @B http://instagr.am/p/OxHxdAEJZ2/


"supported IS"??????

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
08-26-2012, 11:48 AM
"supported IS"??????

Could just be the beer (scan through his Twitter photo gallery), or maybe, maybe ??? :-)

Yuns
08-26-2012, 11:50 AM
I think that might be a mistake Kristian Lam of BM said over in the BM forums that they are working on AF and IS but that they won't be in the initial release. He posted:


Auto focus and Image Stabilization will not be in the initial release but these are features we will be adding with software updates.

Cornelius
08-26-2012, 12:27 PM
Have we got a list of supported SSD's yet? This might of been covered in another post, I just noticed the picture of that kit with the Kingston +200 or 300 is it?

Edit: My bad it's on the front page. Oops! Missed that pretty easily.

Brian@202020
08-26-2012, 01:24 PM
"supported IS"??????

I saw that too.

Yuns
08-26-2012, 07:55 PM
James Tonkin of Hangman Studios has one and has been posting some jpg test shot images

https://twitter.com/hangmanstudios
http://twitpic.com/photos/hangmanstudios

Also Sebastian Wiegartner posted the following raw DNG frame from his tests
http://bit.ly/NPPaK2

awbacon
08-26-2012, 08:08 PM
Thanks for the link! But, ugh, skateboarding video ... hey, whatever the kids will pay for I guess! It's all good. :-)

I mean this in the nicest way possible, but give sports filmmaking a bit more respect. I produced ski films for six years, and it's one of the most exhausting (hike for four hours to get one shot, sleep 2-4 hours a night for months on end, constantly living out of a suitcase), risk filled (will it snow? will my athletes perform? will I have enough footage at the end of the season?), and occasionally maddening form of filmmaking I have been a part of.

I've flown half way around the world to land and find out conditions aren't what we expected, only to have to make a go of it anyway. I've run from the police, driven people to the hospital, worked with the flu in zero degree temperatures for twelve hours, and fixed cameras in hotel rooms with a soldering iron and duct tape (ok...that last one sounds more funny than stressful haha)

Point being...all the years I shot sports are extremely valuable to me where I currently am. A twelve hour day on a crew seems to fly by when I'm not skiing / hiking with all my gear on my back for hours. It taught me the value of busting my ass because in the end, it was completely on me whether or not the films were successful.

It also showed me the world. I've been on just about every continent where it snows, met a ton of amazing people, and lived way more than most people my age get to

Long story short...sports films are a real grueling, pain in the ass genre to work in. But it's amazingly rewarding, and the guys / girls behind and in front of the cameras are some of the most talented, dedicated people you are ever going to meet.

Plus Girl / Chocolate films are awesome in their own right. "Yeah Right!" is still one of my favorite sports films of all time

awbacon
08-26-2012, 08:14 PM
hope that didn't sound angry haha. It's just sometimes it can really chap my ass that sports filmmaking can be the stepchild of the film world. I've met people that have done a lot less than I have tell me what I do isnt "filmmaking" or "art", and it's a bit of a sore subject lol

cksunny
08-26-2012, 08:28 PM
I mean this in the nicest way possible, but give sports filmmaking a bit more respect. I produced ski films for six years, and it's one of the most exhausting (hike for four hours to get one shot, sleep 2-4 hours a night for months on end, constantly living out of a suitcase), risk filled (will it snow? will my athletes perform? will I have enough footage at the end of the season?), and occasionally maddening form of filmmaking I have been a part of.

I've flown half way around the world to land and find out conditions aren't what we expected, only to have to make a go of it anyway. I've run from the police, driven people to the hospital, worked with the flu in zero degree temperatures for twelve hours, and fixed cameras in hotel rooms with a soldering iron and duct tape (ok...that last one sounds more funny than stressful haha)

Point being...all the years I shot sports are extremely valuable to me where I currently am. A twelve hour day on a crew seems to fly by when I'm not skiing / hiking with all my gear on my back for hours. It taught me the value of busting my ass because in the end, it was completely on me whether or not the films were successful.

It also showed me the world. I've been on just about every continent where it snows, met a ton of amazing people, and lived way more than most people my age get to

Long story short...sports films are a real grueling, pain in the ass genre to work in. But it's amazingly rewarding, and the guys / girls behind and in front of the cameras are some of the most talented, dedicated people you are ever going to meet.

Plus Girl / Chocolate films are awesome in their own right. "Yeah Right!" is still one of my favorite sports films of all time

You. Are. Awesome. Can you link any of your ski work?

ianim8
08-26-2012, 08:31 PM
Long story short...sports films are a real grueling, pain in the ass genre to work in. But it's amazingly rewarding, and the guys / girls behind and in front of the cameras are some of the most talented, dedicated people you are ever going to meet.

I don't shoot it professionally but even in a personal and amateur view, its freakin hard to do.
I skate/snow/trail religiously...its a way of life that most cant enjoy :(

awbacon
08-26-2012, 08:32 PM
You. Are. Awesome. Can you link any of your ski work?

lol no I am not awesome...just another dude

pulled the link since I am uploading my fall '12 reel to Vimeo now (older footage from a reel from last year...just redid my reel, need to proof it and upload)

mbeck
08-26-2012, 08:53 PM
James Tonkin of Hangman Studios has one and has been posting some jpg test shot images

https://twitter.com/hangmanstudios
http://twitpic.com/photos/hangmanstudios

Also Sebastian Wiegartner posted the following raw DNG frame from his tests
http://bit.ly/NPPaK2

So... why people want an AA filter on this? That shot with the roof tops is awesome.

also, here is my LR grade of the train shot.

Steve Madsen
08-26-2012, 09:11 PM
Looking at these frames from Stu and James...the tones are beautiful

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
08-26-2012, 10:19 PM
I mean this in the nicest way possible, but give sports filmmaking a bit more respect. ...

Hi awbacon: I meant no offense by my use of the word "ugh", but the truth is I don't enjoy sports film/video. I don't enjoy sports at all. However, I respect the work that goes into it, especially in the case of footage shot by pros like you. That's why I said, "It's all good." My not enjoying sports film/video in no way diminishes either of our lives. Besides, I mostly shoot corporate video, so I'm certainly not looking down at you! :) Cheers!

awbacon
08-26-2012, 10:34 PM
Hi awbacon: I meant no offense by my use of the word "ugh", but the truth is I don't enjoy sports film/video. I don't enjoy sports at all. However, I respect the work that goes into it, especially in the case of footage shot by pros like you. That's why I said, "It's all good." My not enjoying sports film/video in no way diminishes either of our lives. Besides, I mostly shoot corporate video, so I'm certainly not looking down at you! :) Cheers!

Nah it's all good man...I just always get touchy because I've heard way too much negative feedback on sports films. Try sitting through a portfolio review for film school and hearing "sports documentaries have absolutely no redeeming value or artistic integrity"...needless to say I walked on that interview (I went back to school after a long time out, to finish up my degree, and that happened"

Corporate vid is cool with me too...you probably kick my ass in pure money making via film haha

Joe Giambrone
08-27-2012, 12:22 AM
Is there a non-angry way to put this?

Who decided that people want to watch other people opening boxes?

The only thing I'm interested in is what comes OUT of the camera. Holding it up in front of a different camera has absolutely no value in this regard. Sorry. I'm usually honest, to my own detriment sometimes.

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
08-27-2012, 12:40 AM
When a camera is akin to Unobtainium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtainium) I actually find unboxing videos to be quite helpful.

Seeing the rare camera's packaging (carefully packed? quality packaging design & materials?), the included accessories, the size & scale of the camera in relation to the lucky unboxer's hands, seeing how slow or fast the new cam powers-on, seeing the new cam's menus on its LCD, and hearing the unboxer's initial first impressions ("heavy", "solid", etc.) and other comments, and more ... it's all useful info to me.

A product's spec sheet can only convey so much. An unboxing video fills-in a few blanks.

Of course you're right, it's the new cam's ability to record great-looking footage (or not) that's most important. But especially for rare chunks of metal, plastic & glass, I find unboxing videos to be well worth my time. YMMV. Cheers!

Gwangjuboy
08-27-2012, 12:41 AM
Frank Glencairn has received a pre-release BMCC for review: See his posts later in this very thread (http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?809-FYI-Marco-Solorio-amp-Vincent-Laforet-have-pre-release-BMCCs&p=16216&viewfull=1#post16216). Also check his "Test Diary (http://frankglencairn.wordpress.com/2012/08/24/first-hands-on-the-blackmagic-cinema-camera-test-diary/)" when he has time to begin working with the camera. Here's Frank's BMCC Unboxing Video (http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?818-Unboxing-Video&).

Marco Solorio has also received one of these units. See his posts on CreativeCOW and Facebook:
http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/367/126
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.493724947322557.124136.115659998462389

And Vincent Laforet has also:
http://twitter.com/vincentlaforet/status/238786185022025730

JB confirmed that Philip Bloom (http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?809-FYI-Marco-Solorio-amp-Vincent-Laforet-have-pre-release-BMCCs&p=16186&viewfull=1#post16186) has one (well, for the first few days, his cats have a BMCC!), too. And here it is (http://philipbloom.net/2012/08/24/bmd-camera/).

As noted by Yuns in post #78 (http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?809-FYI-Marco-Solorio-amp-Vincent-Laforet-have-pre-release-BMCCs&p=16588&viewfull=1#post16588):

Josh Diamond:
https://twitter.com/josh_diamond

... and, Sean Seah of Firewerkz Film:
http://firewerkzfilms.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh_Yk0PEDRE

... and, Sebastian Wiegärtner:
http://wiegaertnerfilms.com/category/microblog/

... and, some skateboarding guy:
https://twitter.com/prettysweet_mov

... and, James Tonkin of Hangman Studios:
https://twitter.com/hangmanstudios
http://twitpic.com/photos/hangmanstudios

... have BMCCs as well.

Additional info will be posted in the "reviews" thread here, too:
http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?828-BMC-Camera-reviews&

Lucky fellows!

Anyone else confirmed? I'll try to keep this first post up-to-date for the first dozen or so review units.


Umm how can I put this...I may be wrong but 'Some Skateboarding guy' is either Spike Jonze or someone working with Spike Jonze. Funny everyone is all excited about about some semi-pro bloggers using the camera and missed that one of the most cutting edge directors of our time is on Twitter holding the thing, hehe.

I'm guessing the guy is working with Jonze on this Sakteboarding video, who knows what he will use it for later.....

http://vimeo.com/32240946

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
08-27-2012, 12:48 AM
Umm how can I put this...I may be wrong but 'Some Skateboarding guy' is either Spike Jonze or someone working with Spike Jonze. Funny everyone is all excited about about some semi-pro bloggers using the camera and missed that one of the most cutting edge directors of our time is on Twitter holding the thing, hehe.

I'm guessing the guy is working with Jonze on this Sakteboarding video, who knows what he will use it for later.....

http://vimeo.com/32240946

"Some skateboarding guy" is welcome to start using his real name on Twitter. Until he does, or until his identity is independently confirmed, to me he's just some "skateboarding guy" on Twitter.

Gwangjuboy
08-27-2012, 12:54 AM
Well technically I think its a twitter account for a movie not a person, and thats either Pretty Sweet or Girl with Chocolate which is the Twitter name. My shot was not at you personally, so I wouldn't take it as such.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1670995/

Dan Pears
08-27-2012, 01:09 AM
Would love to see Spike Jonze film something on it.

Falsett
08-27-2012, 04:39 AM
Did anyone of these comment on the AA-filter?

Yuns
08-27-2012, 04:46 AM
James Tonkin did a quick aliasing test on some fine brickwork and roof patterns. Click on th hangman films twitpic link to see it. He stated that the BMCC handled it well with no aliasing problems and you can see that for yourself.

Cornelius
08-27-2012, 05:14 AM
Anyone see this? Spike with the BMC

730

RyGuy
08-27-2012, 06:00 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong...but I believe Spike Jonze co-owns Girl skateboards?

Dan Pears
08-27-2012, 06:20 AM
Anyone see this? Spike with the BMC

730

Gwangjuboy pointed out Spike Jonze with the BMC a few posts up. Very rad.

Brian@202020
08-27-2012, 06:37 AM
Spike was awesome in "3 Kings". I just watched that again last week. "3 Kings" is on my regular monthly rotation.

flatlander
08-27-2012, 06:48 AM
Its Ty Evans

Cornelius
08-27-2012, 07:56 AM
Gwangjuboy pointed out Spike Jonze with the BMC a few posts up. Very rad.

Yeah that's why I thought i'd post it. Pretty neat eh, The tweet said 'Spike with the BMC.' So what's what I'm lead to believe. I've not seen enough video/pictures of to recognize him though.

Brad Ferrell
08-27-2012, 08:19 AM
I was so jealous of Spike Jonze back in the nineties. I was stuck in school and he was out there just doing it. Damn, I was jealous.

Like Frank, I've got work to do. I'm waiting on Resolve at this point. The camera has proven itself to me through John's posts, but there are a few things in Resolve I need to check out before I start on a new workflow and integrate it into my pipeline.

DanKanes
08-27-2012, 09:39 AM
"Some skateboarding guy" is welcome to start using his real name on Twitter. Until he does, or until his identity is independently confirmed, to me he's just some "skateboarding guy" on Twitter.

#youusedtohavesomelevelofmyrespectbutyoujustshredd edthelastbitofcredulityyouhadwithme

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
08-27-2012, 10:08 AM
#youusedtohavesomelevelofmyrespectbutyoujustshredd edthelastbitofcredulityyouhadwithme

I'm honored that I had some level of respect from you even at one point in the past. :-)

Gwangjuboy
08-27-2012, 10:24 AM
#youusedtohavesomelevelofmyrespectbutyoujustshredd edthelastbitofcredulityyouhadwithme

Dude, that list was on here for maybe 24hrs or more, NOBODY including you noticed it was related to Spike Jonze and I wouldn't of if I didn't live in a different time zone and caught a photo that was posted just before I checked the link.

Gwangjuboy
08-27-2012, 10:31 AM
#youusedtohavesomelevelofmyrespectbutyoujustshredd edthelastbitofcredulityyouhadwithme



#youneverhadanylevelofmyrespectandneverwillwithdic kcommentslikethat

filmbot
08-27-2012, 12:16 PM
Yes the pic on my twitter and Tys twitter has a lot of the stuff we have been shooting with the new BMCC camera on the new Pretty Sweet / Girl Chocolate film
You can follow more info on the camera/movie. And yes Spike is part owner of Girl skateboards.

twitter - @filmbot
@prettysweetmovie

instagram filmbot
prettysweetmovie

Cornelius
08-27-2012, 12:49 PM
Yes the pic on my twitter and Tys twitter has a lot of the stuff we have been shooting with the new BMCC camera on the new Pretty Sweet / Girl Chocolate film
You can follow more info on the camera/movie. And yes Spike is part owner of Girl skateboards.

twitter - @filmbot
@prettysweetmovie

instagram filmbot
prettysweetmovie

I had a feeling you'd show up. Thanks for the good tweets.

awbacon
08-27-2012, 01:03 PM
You. Are. Awesome. Can you link any of your ski work?

Hey man...you asked to see my work. Vimeo just finished uploading late last night, so here is a link

Excuse some of the soft focus...a lot of the skiing was shot on SD then Uprez'd via InstantHD or some other plug-in (can't remember exactly what I used, it was like 24 months ago)

oh...and the website goes practically nowhere...still working on that

http://vimeo.com/48278094 (pass : bmc)

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
08-27-2012, 01:07 PM
Yes the pic on my twitter and Tys twitter has a lot of the stuff we have been shooting with the new BMCC camera on the new Pretty Sweet / Girl Chocolate film
You can follow more info on the camera/movie. And yes Spike is part owner of Girl skateboards.

twitter - @filmbot
@prettysweetmovie

instagram filmbot
prettysweetmovie

Thanks for posting! For people like me who are out of the loop and don't know you, I'd be happy to put your real name in the 1st post here, unless of course you prefer "some skateboarding guy" (which is a cool name I think). Let me know. Cheers. :-)

EDIT: I updated the 1st post, adding Jim Geduldick's name. Hope that's correct.

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
08-27-2012, 01:08 PM
Meanwhile, Marco's BMCC is having some fun (new pix added to his Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.493724947322557.124136.115659998462389)).

Cornelius
08-27-2012, 03:15 PM
Meanwhile, Marco's BMCC is having some fun (new pix added to his Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.493724947322557.124136.115659998462389)).

Saw that earlier, some nice pics. I'm settled for the ViewFactor cage now. I would like to find out what their delivery to the UK is like, I once got taxed heavily on a rig from the US.

DanKanes
08-27-2012, 03:24 PM
#youneverhadanylevelofmyrespectandneverwillwithdic kcommentslikethat

It was not that he didn't know who spike jonze was.

It was the "ugh skateboarding guy" thing

And then the "guy has to use his real name on twitter" thing that bothered me.

In any case , it's a Joke hence the long hashtag, but I can see how easy it is to miss humor when everyone is so tense.

Not that it matters but I've been riding girl and chcolate skateboards since I was 14 years old in 1994.



Anyway, look for my basic overview of the camera later today .


Cheers.

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
08-27-2012, 03:30 PM
Hi Dan: It's odd that you think everyone who uses video cameras simply must already know the name of everyone else who does.

Since the twitter account (https://twitter.com/prettysweet_mov) that was originally linked-to doesn't have a person's name attached to it, and most of the photos in its gallery shows people skateboarding, drinking beer, getting bashed-up, etc. then that gets an "ugh" from me.

In the post by "filmbot" above, he still doesn't include his name. The internet shouldn't be one big game of twenty questions interlinked via secret handshakes amongst the "it" girls. Only in my opinion, of course.

I look forward to reading your thoughts about the BMCC! Cheers.

DanKanes
08-27-2012, 04:12 PM
Its all good. I use my real name because I like to, and so do you , that's cool.

I am just of the opinion that not everyone should have to do that if they don't want to , and cyphers are one of the most fun parts of the Internet .

No big deal, let's be friends .

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
08-27-2012, 04:57 PM
... No big deal, let's be friends .

In the immortal words of Soupy Sales (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soupy_Sales), "Send me funny green pieces of paper with pictures of U.S. Presidents!", and consider it done. :-)

filmbot
08-27-2012, 05:46 PM
For Peter ya sorry tried to change my user name but was waiting verification for this forum.
Yes that is me thanks for spelling it right.

And Ty posts the #prettysweetmovie twitter and instgram

SantaCruzMichael
08-27-2012, 06:07 PM
Can we can the rediculous off-topic discussion and leave this thread for updates on anything Marco and Vincent may post?

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
08-28-2012, 12:23 AM
Added links to the 1st post in this thread for Dan Kanes' initial BMCC reports and unboxing video:
http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?865-My-First-Few-Hours-with-the-BMCC&
http://dankanesbmcc.blogspot.com/
http://www.youtube.com/embed/m14NPkYp4Ms

Steve4505
08-30-2012, 08:53 PM
One River has updated his Blog in case some have not been following it or his Facebook Page.
http://www.onerivermedia.com/blog/?p=677

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
09-06-2012, 05:24 AM
Added Glendyn Ivin to the 1st post in this thread. Glendyn directed the recent "Puberty Blues" TVS with DP John Brawley.

See:
http://twitter.com/Glendyn_Ivin