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erik_ande_85
02-21-2014, 09:35 AM
Hey!

I'm going to shoot a lot of car scenes fairly soon and I would love to get some tips & tricks.

I'd like to know if it's possible to trick an interior scene of a car standing still with some moving lights outside the window, and if so, how?

Jake Hellbach
02-21-2014, 09:41 AM
Andrew Kramer from Video Copilot did just that.

https://vimeo.com/29395697

erik_ande_85
02-21-2014, 09:51 AM
Andrew Kramer from Video Copilot did just that.

https://vimeo.com/29395697

I know, but I was looking for some solution without green screen, is that possible?

Jake Hellbach
02-21-2014, 10:02 AM
Oh to make it look like you're moving?
I guess if the outside was completely black or tight shot of the people in the car. Just do the part in Kramers video of moving a light across the people in the car. Like passing lights.
But may look strange since there is nothing outside.

cpc
02-21-2014, 10:35 AM
Poor man's process (https://www.google.bg/search?q=poor+man%27s+process&oq=poor+man%27s+process&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8)

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edit:
The name is a bit ironic as it isn't exactly cheap and it is been used in a lot of fairly high budget movies.

Jake Hellbach
02-21-2014, 10:47 AM
Wow that is a complicated setup. You are right, not exactly cheap hiring all of those people, that huge amount of space.

i'll stick with green screen.

Jon
02-21-2014, 03:23 PM
I once used a combination of the above illustration and a 50" LCD TV placed outside the driver and passenger window. I liked it because the TV subtly illuminated the actors. Drive around around and shoot your own plates beforehand.

Jake Hellbach
02-21-2014, 04:45 PM
Now that is an idea.
It's the same concept they used in the sky tower scenes from Oblivion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DCkIuv82Q4

Maybe instead of a TV, do like they did in the movie. Use a projector and project it to a white paper background.

Kingswell
02-21-2014, 10:47 PM
I once used a combination of the above illustration and a 50" LCD TV placed outside the driver and passenger window. I liked it because the TV subtly illuminated the actors. Drive around around and shoot your own plates beforehand.

Don't suppose you have that footage anywhere to see. Sounds an interesting idea.

Abobakr
02-22-2014, 06:42 AM
this may seems a little out of topic but i loved how they achieved passing lights on a moving train.. nice tricks here and there specially at the mark around 1:32 and also at 4:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7e_UErTP1g

John Brawley
02-22-2014, 08:05 AM
You don't have to get as complicated as the "poor mans process" illustration.

Often a couple of lights moving alongside the car is enough. I've done it using only two lights. I like finding a background that has traffic in the deep BG anyway so you get real car headlights for free. I often use a long street with a dead end and get a PA to drive a car slowly towards the set.

With the camera on a slider you can fake it pretty nicely on tighter frames.

Screens and prjectros can work well if you want to start using them for illumination and for reflections into windscreens but it gets more complex then...

jb

Kingswell
02-22-2014, 09:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMr2UsBLZxA

Just watched this video which was helpful.

Kingswell
02-22-2014, 09:27 AM
In terms of going projector and green screen route can anyone recommend best practices for shooting the plates? What focal length should i use and are there any better method of stabilization than a bean bag?