PDA

View Full Version : RED EPIC & BMCC : down n' dirty test at the Santa Monica Beach



Rick Darge
01-23-2013, 07:25 AM
Hey guys - Did a quick test last Sunday with my buddy Austin Flack and his BMCC camera. If you need a BMCC in the Los Angeles area, Austin is the MAN!

We pitted his camera and my Red Epic together for some quick tests, while sharing the same lenses. It's a good example of what the crop factor is all about as well as showing resolution and latitude across the board.

In a word, I love this camera. Look forward to putting it through the paces on our feature film and other doc shoots. Enjoy!


https://vimeo.com/58010611

metaljesus
01-23-2013, 07:47 AM
Thanks for sharing Rick!

Any chance of turning on the download function so we can see the file out of the NLE?

Rick Darge
01-23-2013, 07:51 AM
Sure thing!

This was a quick test so I can't wait to give it another go in a more controlled environment. I think the BMCC could be less contrasty. I was surprised at how great the BMCC looked compared to the Epic out of the box. The screen is a nightmare in the hot sun. You need an external monitor. I wish Blackmagic had a remote control option so if you didn't want to do the touchscreen, you didn't have to.

jho
01-23-2013, 08:02 AM
the bmc have black point at the sun

bowman
01-23-2013, 08:19 AM
I think the BMC held up quite well. he Epic was noticeably smoother highlights and a generally more 'milky' if that's a term look ungraded. Would be good to see the same clip graded.

Felix
01-23-2013, 08:44 AM
Redlogfilm is a lot more loggish than BMD_Film. The BMD_Film curve in Davinci and Prores Log go up to 100 IRE while Redlogfilm is totally squeezed, maybe reaching 80 IRE in pure white.

bowman
01-23-2013, 08:58 AM
Redlogfilm is a lot more loggish than BMD_Film. The BMD_Film curve in Davinci and Prores Log go up to 100 IRE while Redlogfilm is totally squeezed, maybe reaching 80 IRE in pure white.


Soooo more 'milky' then...

handshaker
01-23-2013, 09:19 AM
Hi,
I'm glad to see a comparison between a RED camera and the BMCC. However the results are hobbled by shooting at F22, it softens the image to the sensor due to increased diffraction within the lens. F8 aperture is optimal for lens sharpness.
Thanks for doing the test though.

bumkicho
01-23-2013, 09:27 AM
the bmc have black point at the sun

Does anyone know if that's normal for bmcc? Is that something bmc users should expect to deal with?

metaljesus
01-23-2013, 09:56 AM
Yes it's a standard problem at the moment. Everyone assumes it'll be fixed next firmware update.

Jeff
01-23-2013, 11:01 AM
Does anyone know if that's normal for bmcc? Is that something bmc users should expect to deal with?

Besides that its super easy to fix in any program, AE, Nuke, even PS tbh.

Jeff
01-23-2013, 11:01 AM
Thanks for the test, great test, why was the guy wearing a google shirt?

Also, nice location :)

creativity75
01-23-2013, 11:10 AM
Great test, thanks! Was that the Canon or Nikon Tokina?

P.S. - That dude likes to show off his crabs.

Austin Flack
01-23-2013, 01:40 PM
It was the Canon Tokina. And I was wearing a Google shirt 'cause I used to work there.

Engelien
01-23-2013, 02:13 PM
Can someone post the link? Can't see the video embed on my ipad..

Trevor Roach
01-23-2013, 02:37 PM
Can someone post the link? Can't see the video embed on my ipad..

Here you go:
https://vimeo.com/58010611#at=0

Adam Roberts
01-23-2013, 02:45 PM
Nice little test. Look forward to seeing it in use on your project (that's if you get on in time).

Macielle
01-23-2013, 02:48 PM
the bmc have black point at the sun

Yeah, it's perfect for tracking! :cool:

Jeff
01-23-2013, 02:58 PM
It was the Canon Tokina. And I was wearing a Google shirt 'cause I used to work there.

Hmm... do you have problems focusing to infinity?

Austin Flack
01-23-2013, 03:26 PM
Focusing at infinity does seem to be a problem, yes.

Liam
01-24-2013, 07:18 AM
Hmm... do you have problems focusing to infinity?


Focusing at infinity does seem to be a problem, yes.

This is actually a problem that is being discussed in another dedicated thread.

http://bmcuser.com/showthread.php?2351-Tokina-11-16-2-8-be-careful

markmwilliams
01-24-2013, 11:23 AM
It's interesting that one of the biggest concerns about the BMCC is the crop factor, and yet IMO the slightly telephoto BMCC shots seemed more cinematic to me than the wider EPIC framing.

I know this is completely subjective, but I was surprised by how in most cases I preferred the crop to the wider shot

Rick Darge
01-24-2013, 12:07 PM
I completely agree with you Mark. I no longer feel the crop. I think the 17-55 is a great all around lens for the EF models too..

rick.lang
01-24-2013, 04:54 PM
Can someone post the link? Can't see the video embed on my ipad..

When that happens, just hit QUOTE, then select the URL for the video in the compose window and paste on top of Safari's current URL or in a new tab.