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jambredz
12-24-2012, 08:27 AM
Can anyone recommend a decent/good budget hazer that one can purchase? I'm finding the need to purchase one instead of rent.

CaptainHook
12-24-2012, 05:07 PM
We brought one recently but i've only used it for a few still shoots so far so can't recommend it yet without more usage (especially on moving image shoots). It has mixed reviews online but it's a 'budget' one and most of the bad reviews come from people using much pricier options.

http://avsl-qtx.com/product/160.450UK

We shot these 2 stills using it as promo images for a new Sony (NZ) artist and it worked well without any hassle (it supposedly won't set off fire alarms too and in one location we used, that seemed true but i would still be paranoid):

http://acoupleofnightowls.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/ACONO_JosephAndMaia_01_C_SML.jpg

http://acoupleofnightowls.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/ACONO_JosephAndMaia_02_C_SML.jpg

We've shot more with it but we're not allowed to post them yet.

jambredz
12-24-2012, 10:18 PM
thanks Captain. I'm also looking on this http://www.farralane.com/store/p-3267-irradiant-z-300-haze-machine-700w.aspx

Seen some decent reviews of it.

John Brawley
12-25-2012, 02:29 AM
They cost. But the DF50. It's a workhorse for a reason.

JB.

Abobakr
12-25-2012, 09:24 AM
Wow, I checked it out.. but that's pricey!!

Matthew Bennett
12-25-2012, 09:59 AM
They cost. But the DF50. It's a workhorse for a reason.

JB.

Holy grail of hazers! Hey John, when working on a professional set with haze in play, is there almost always a single guy dedicated strictly to rangling the haze?

jambredz
12-25-2012, 10:40 AM
Holy grail of hazers! Hey John, when working on a professional set with haze in play, is there almost always a single guy dedicated strictly to rangling the haze?

Yikes Holy Grail is right. I'd be renting sumn like that....but I do want a personal one for my personal projects. I really love the feel it gives to some scenes and really want to play around with beams of light more in my films (non work stuff). So A decent lower end one (pricewise) is what i'm aiming for.

Tim Joy
12-25-2012, 02:14 PM
For small spaces and light use I've used Haze in a Can with good results.

CaptainHook
12-25-2012, 04:51 PM
I've only ever considered the DF50 as a rental item too for that price. :)

John Brawley
12-25-2012, 04:55 PM
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For small spaces and light use I've used Haze in a Can with good results.

I just did a show with a lot of sensitive locations. Haze in a can can save your arse but it can be expensive to maintain the level.

JB.

John Brawley
12-25-2012, 05:02 PM
Holy grail of hazers! Hey John, when working on a professional set with haze in play, is there almost always a single guy dedicated strictly to rangling the haze?

Usually stand by props guys / girls carry these on board their trucks. They usually charge dailies for em but on some shows you want them all the time. I got stung recently by a guy who said he had a hazer And it said "haze" on the front of the machine, but it was just a smoke machine with a built in fan.

There are different reactions that happen to the fluid. Smoke machines heat up and vaporise the fluid. Hazers "crack" the fluid under pressure and you get a totally different and more sublte texture.

The most difficult thing is maintaining the haze levels once it's established and that's why it's good to have it be the responsibility of just one person.

The smart guys get a remote 240v wireless trigger(from any electronics store) and then they can carry the fob remote around with them. So then I can take it myself around my neck or let the standby or standby Assitant do it but they can also be doing other work as well.

I love good stand by props guys. My favourite guy has all sorts of "dust" he can fan into the air as well. Feathers which work great as "pollen" for outdoor romantic scenarios.

JB.

Frank Glencairn
12-25-2012, 05:34 PM
The links are cheap party fog machines with a fan - results get nowhere near a real Hazer that works completely different.
I have a LeMaitre Hazer - love it! Got it used from Ebay for 350 bucks. I use it on almost any indoor shot if I can and the fluid lasts forever (like 150 hours from one bottle).

http://www.lemaitreusa.com/productInformation.aspx?UKeyCategory=8&UKeyProduct=185

Edit: Ah, John beat me to it.

Matthew Bennett
12-26-2012, 09:04 AM
Great thread. Learned a lot about hazers here!

Tim Joy
12-26-2012, 09:46 AM
Another thing I learned a while ago about haze and fog is that you should be mindful of what type of smoke detectors are around. The optical sensing ones that are in newer buildings and dorms etc will be set off by haze and fog. I got the fire dept to show up at a dorm we were staying at for a 48hr film fest. Ha ha. Oops. Midnight excitement anyone?? :)

John Brawley
12-26-2012, 12:56 PM
Another thing I learned a while ago about haze and fog is that you should be mindful of what type of smoke detectors are around. The optical sensing ones that are in newer buildings and dorms etc will be set off by haze and fog. I got the fire dept to show up at a dorm we were staying at for a 48hr film fest. Ha ha. Oops. Midnight excitement anyone?? :)

There are two types of smoke detector.

One is based on detecting carbon and is the much cheaper, usually mildly radioactive type...Smoke and Hazers don't set these off.

The other is an optical / density type...these will be set off by Smoke and haze machines...

jb

teh
12-26-2012, 02:15 PM
I've seen this little guy do some great work: http://www.looksolutionsusa.com/products/machines/power-tiny/

Probably not suited for outdoor work but indoors it produced great looking haze and it's nice to have a handheld / battery powered unit.

jambredz
12-27-2012, 11:45 AM
thanks guys....i 2 am learning alot

jambredz
12-27-2012, 11:46 AM
I've seen this little guy do some great work: http://www.looksolutionsusa.com/products/machines/power-tiny/

Probably not suited for outdoor work but indoors it produced great looking haze and it's nice to have a handheld / battery powered unit.

thats a fog machine right there.

John Brawley
12-27-2012, 06:57 PM
Indeed.

Its worth noting that there are FOG machines or Foggers and HAZERS. They are different machines / technologies. Fogger's produce SMOKE and hazers produce HAZE....

Fog is different visually. It reads more and tends to look more like smoke in the air. Hazers give texture without looking like something's on fire and are a lot more subtle.

Some are using the phrase interchangeably.

jb

Darryl Gregory
12-27-2012, 07:49 PM
FYI: You can also buy "Smoke in a Can", I've used it it small rooms to create a haze from light through a window.

robmneilson
01-30-2013, 07:01 PM
For lack of a good hazer I used smoke in a can from film tools recently, and it worked very nice. But uh, make sure you use some gloves if you are spraying it alot. Got a chemical burn on my trigger finger!

Tom
01-31-2013, 08:47 AM
I got some "fog in a can", used it and noticed that despite its description on the can, it DID leave a residue on things, had to very carefully clean some lenses afterwards!

Probably not the case with all canned fogs, but certainly something to be careful of when getting cheap ones!

m0fe
03-20-2013, 05:28 PM
I've only ever considered the DF50 as a rental item too for that price. :) Man you jut made my day, haze in a can will work perfect for my next shoot.

Wolf_CFX
03-24-2013, 02:09 PM
As an SFX supervisor i can recommend looking at this machines: www.looksolutions.com, specially the Unique Hazer. Itīs a fog machine by nature but uses a very special fluid, and creates a nice haze. We use it a lot on very different sets, since you can adjust it really well and fine, in both the pump and the fan. it is not in the high prince range either.

But as told, the best haze is made with a cracker, but that is also the most expensive solution.


Feel free to ask me further question via pm.

Cheers, Wolf

mtschudi
09-04-2014, 12:53 PM
Hey Darren, which hazer did you end up choosing?

jambredz
09-04-2014, 04:34 PM
Hey Darren, which hazer did you end up choosing?

Forgot about this thread here. I didnt end up getting any actually lol. If I was though I'd prob get. If i was gonna get one I'd just get a good one and be done...I wasn't ready to drop that kinda $$ for it. Maybe this http://www.lemaitreusa.com/p/MVS-Hazer/2mtlZrO76ug

Willian Aleman
09-04-2014, 06:10 PM
Here is a list of them with a vast price range and type:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=rradiant+Z-300+Haze+Machine&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=

robmneilson
09-04-2014, 08:51 PM
I bought the Chauvet Hurricane Haze 2D. It seems that its just a fog machine with a fan, but for the price it works very well. I put in rosco haze fluid and it comes out pretty thick at the highest setting, so I have to wait and waft. I'd love to buy one of the $1200 ones, but this does the job.

I've also been using fog in a can from filmtools when I'm lazy and shooting in a small room.

Adam J McKay
09-06-2014, 09:30 PM
For small spaces and light use I've used Haze in a Can with good results.

Haze in a can is one of my favorite things in the world. This is a scene from my first feature was hazed with the can haze. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9nrEIh93c0&list=UULGcXR78coZ4hhWEiCxzBAw It can be a lifesaver, but I too have been looking for a good hazer but they tend to be pricey.