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nickjbedford
05-08-2012, 04:00 PM
Given that we'll have to be using naked SSDs in the BMC and that the camera won't show up as a readable drive (unless something has changed), does anyone recommend any specific SSD caddies? I have an iMac at home with Thunderbolt which would be the fastest, but FW800 is probably ok. USB2 would take a while to copy.

Or can any 2.5" caddy work fine with SSDs?

StephenM
05-08-2012, 04:07 PM
Any should work. I'm using a Seagate Goflex Thunderbolt for my Hyperdeck SSD's. Very fast.

thegregferris
05-08-2012, 08:49 PM
You might as well wait for July to see what some of the manufacturers like Vantec do -I'm a fan of their USB3 Dock - and look at some that have the ability to cradle two disks at once. Pop your SSD in one and copy to the HDD in the other slot.

http://www.vantecusa.com/en/product/view_detail/495 this with a thunderbolt connection would be the go...

Tony Anastasi
05-08-2012, 09:46 PM
I've got two of the ritmo twin drive docks, esata etc and allows bit to bit drive copies.. However I do NOT recommend these as they randomly disconnect with the slightest bump :( painful when it does that. Stay well away! Why did I buy two? They were dirt cheap lol

Tony Anastasi
05-08-2012, 09:51 PM
I've got two of the ritmo twin drive docks, esata etc and allows bit to bit drive copies.. However I do NOT recommend these as they randomly disconnect with the slightest bump :( painful when it does that. Stay well away! Why did I buy two? They were dirt cheap lol

thegregferris
05-08-2012, 09:56 PM
I also suggest steering clear of Ritmo - quite the waste of money...

taz291819
05-09-2012, 10:12 AM
I use a cheap Rosewill USB3.0 dock, works like a champ. It's only a single slot, will probably upgrade to a dual slot at some point.

Note Suwanchote
05-09-2012, 10:34 AM
Im also looking for one but would prefer to wait on a TB based one
seems like the goflex should be good if you have a TB otherwise usb 3 ones are cheaper

aamli
06-14-2012, 03:59 PM
I only have usb2.0 and firewire800 on my 27" iMac.. Anyone know about a docking station that will work with FW800? I cant find any.

usb2.0 will be way to slow

Macalincag
06-14-2012, 04:13 PM
Anyone know about a docking station that will work with FW800? I cant find any.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/798869-REG/Newer_Technology_NWTFWU3ES2HDK_Voyager_Q_Quad_Inte rface.html

Just google "Firewire 800 SATA dock". Not so hard :-)

aamli
06-14-2012, 04:30 PM
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/798869-REG/Newer_Technology_NWTFWU3ES2HDK_Voyager_Q_Quad_Inte rface.html

Just google "Firewire 800 SATA dock". Not so hard :-)

Thanks! I thought an SSD 2.5" and a 2.5" HDD used different docking stations. Sorry, I was just a bit confused. But as long its SATA 2.5" it will work with SSD 2.5"?

Macalincag
06-14-2012, 04:45 PM
Sorry, I was just a bit confused.

Well think about it for second. What type of interface do both HDD and SSD use? Yup, SATA. So yes, the SATA dock will work with SATA drives.

Adam Jeal
06-14-2012, 04:53 PM
I bought two of these about a month ago;

http://www.freecom.com/Products/Hard-Drive-Docks/Hard-Drive-Dock-Quattro

X2 FW800 X1 FW400 X1 USB 2 & X1 eSATA


Adam

Macalincag
06-14-2012, 05:10 PM
I bought two of these about a month ago;

http://www.freecom.com/Products/Hard-Drive-Docks/Hard-Drive-Dock-Quattro

This lacks USB 3.0 and is a bit more expensive than the previously mentioned dock.

Adam Jeal
06-21-2012, 06:47 PM
I know. I bought them for FW800, eSATA & rock-solid reliability. They work very well & the build quality is the best I've seen yet. Compare this to something like the REDMAG readers for off-loading RED footage and these things are a steal.

Macalincag
06-23-2012, 07:14 PM
Here's a good option:

INEO I-NA320U USB 3.0 w/ SATA III at a good price. Nice color scheme as well, if you as me. :)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817620034

Gwangjuboy
06-23-2012, 08:26 PM
http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/150825780362?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&adtype=pla

This will work, right?

Macalincag
06-23-2012, 08:28 PM
This will work, right?

http://bmcuser.com/showthread.php?200-Recommend-an-SSD-Caddy&p=2878&viewfull=1#post2878

jabloomf1230
06-23-2012, 08:58 PM
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/798869-REG/Newer_Technology_NWTFWU3ES2HDK_Voyager_Q_Quad_Inte rface.html

Just google "Firewire 800 SATA dock". Not so hard :-)
I don't know how well the Voyager Q works with FW800 on a Mac, but I have one on USB 3 and it works great.

Macalincag
06-23-2012, 09:10 PM
I just ordered the INEO I-NA320U for $24.99 (50% off), as I'll be needing USB 3.0.

funwithstuff
06-24-2012, 05:13 AM
I don't know how well the Voyager Q works with FW800 on a Mac, but I have one on USB 3 and it works great.

I have a Voyager Q and it would be ideal if your Mac's best interface is FireWire 800. Pull the SSD out of the BMCC, put it in the dock, copy the footage off into your Mac. If you have a new Mac, a generic USB3 dock (about $30!) would be a better deal. It would be great if the Voyager was updated for current interfaces.

Peter J. DeCrescenzo
06-24-2012, 01:04 PM
Mac Pros can be configured to connect to a Voyager Q via eSATA, as can certain older MacBook Pros via an optional ExpressCard34 eSATA adapter. Should be way faster than FW800. And now the newest MBP has USB-3.

funwithstuff
06-25-2012, 03:22 AM
Mac Pros can be configured to connect to a Voyager Q via eSATA, as can certain older MacBook Pros via an optional ExpressCard34 eSATA adapter. Should be way faster than FW800. And now the newest MBP has USB-3.

Yes. However, if you're going to get a PCI card for your Mac Pro, best to get a USB3 card so your external drives will also work with the next Mac you buy. I don't think eSATA will ever be supported out of the box; Thunderbolt and USB3 are both faster and carry power.

podio
01-29-2013, 06:30 PM
I bought this SSD Caddy, only $16. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817707199.

I know that is a slow option, USB 2.0, but powered by USB.

I'm looking for a solid, Thunderbolt, 2.5 only option. But until a better option comes...

kevin baggott
01-29-2013, 07:22 PM
i have the seagate go flex tb - and use the sandisk 240 gb ssd - but i had to return two of these suckers when I was initially using a 480gb sandisk - so be careful - lots of peeps have had problems with the 480gb - no problem with the 240 ssd.

CaptainHook
01-30-2013, 12:53 AM
I got an ICY DOCK USB3/eSATA free with my camera. Only used USB3 so far but seems pretty good...

Kholi
01-30-2013, 03:35 AM
I think as long as you're using USB3.0 or eSata you should be okay, but the day I go to shoot a feature and I'm shooting all RAW is the day I budget for an all thunderbolt solution. Or at least a primary Thunderbolt chain.

That's the only thing as far as the data chain goes that bothers me, but that's bothered me with 5K as well, especially on commercials or talking heads.

Until then USB3.0 has actually been a great asset on my Macbook. Never thought it would be.

Vegas Bob
01-30-2013, 03:37 AM
+1 for the Voyager Q. I'm on an older Mac Pro with a PCI eSATA connector to USB 3. Much faster than I expected.

Frank Glencairn
01-30-2013, 04:20 AM
If you are going the USB3 or eSata route, I can't say enough good things about the Thermaltake Black X series of docking stations.
They got the latest chipsets and give the best performance I saw so far.


They also have Dual models, where you can dump 2 SSD at the same time. Or make backups.

randyman
01-30-2013, 06:38 AM
Doing well with the Voyager Q, but I'm stuck with Firewire 800 since my two eSATA cards are serving my 8-drive RAID. Have my fingers crossed for that new-design MacPro later this year.

CaptainHook
01-30-2013, 04:39 PM
I just ran the blackmagic speed test app on my SSD in the ICYDOCK station via USB3 on my Hackintosh, seems pretty decent to me??
Would love to see results for other solutions though, especially eSATA and Thunderbolt to know what i'm missing out on (i haven't enabled the esata port on my hack yet and i'd need to get a new motherboard for thunderbolt as it wasn't available when i built my workstation).

http://f.cl.ly/items/1D2L040P2q2B430r3q37/SSD_IcyDock.png

uknovaboy
01-30-2013, 07:40 PM
I had a g-drive that had failed so I opened it up and I use it to transfer via esata.
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My dell system has a built in esata connection and for some of our macpro's we have esata cards, but a cheap alternative is this cable from OWC which connects to the spare esata connnector on the motherboard which is reserved for the bottom optical bay: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/MPQXES2/

randyman
01-30-2013, 08:42 PM
Ooh! That's a great tip. Thanks!

podio
02-05-2013, 08:03 PM
I received my SSD docking. As I said, I'm still researching for a Thunderbolt system, but I bought this $16 docking station from NewEgg. It's small, practical and it's USB powered. Only USB 2.0

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Top View.

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CaptainHook
02-25-2013, 07:21 PM
I just connected my ICYDOCK via eSATA and run disk speed testing. Not a huge speed difference compared to USB3 but every little bit helps and after reading that TRIM functions won't work over USB3 but will via eSATA, it was worthwhile getting this going for me.

ICYDOCK -> eSATA:

http://f.cl.ly/items/3V2K0a2342470s19331F/SSD_IcyDock_eSATA.png

And a reminder of USB3 speeds with the ICYDOCK:

http://f.cl.ly/items/1D2L040P2q2B430r3q37/SSD_IcyDock.png

J.F.R.
06-06-2013, 01:52 PM
I just did a quick test on my Internal Hard Rrive (iMac Fusion) and these were the results.

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This might be a good comparison against external SSD and iMac internal Fusion drive speeds.

CaptainHook
06-06-2013, 04:44 PM
What drive? Ive seen quite a bit of speed difference between SSD models/manufacturers. Thanks. :)

Paul Abrahams
06-23-2013, 05:23 PM
Couple of tests here: imac 3.4, 1TB fusion, 16ram, GTX680 2gb.

imac fusion drive - system ops

3530

Seagate thunderbolt Dock - Sandisk Extreme SSD 480gb

3531

Davinci can render/edit 25fps raw off SSD drive with a LUT & 4 nodes.

Good enough for small jobs.

PS. The fusion is faster but you can't render off it.

jamesburt
06-26-2013, 07:40 AM
I've been using the USB 3 Startech dock. Seems pretty damn snappy working with a 27inch imac (late 2013).

Brian@202020
06-26-2013, 12:26 PM
Keep in mind when buying a dock that Thunderbolt is currently not needed for any of the BMD products. The BMCC and BMPC both use SATAII hardware, so most if not all the recomended SSD's are SATAII. SATAII maxes out at 3Gb/s. USB3 is 5Gb/s, eSATAII is 3Gb/s, and eSATAIII is 6Gb/s. These are all as fast or faster than the recomended SSD's. Even if BMD has a recommended SSD that is SATAIII that would max out at 6Gb/s, so a dock with eSATAIII would be a lot cheaper. Just saying.

marsmock
06-29-2013, 11:19 AM
Hello, So I contacted BH and they said the Seagate Goflex TBolt wouldn't work? They have discontinued it so I'm not sure if they are trying to sell me something else. This is so confusing in my research. I was curious you are using the Goflex with a BM Hyperdeck? Do you know if I can use the Goflex and just Sandisk Extreme 480gb drives?